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Title: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 16, 2010, 09:40:58 AM
i know emi won't do poop about this because he never does but akrans giving out raids to alliance members


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Arkan on May 16, 2010, 10:30:22 AM
 The only people that raided me were in the top ten already. If theyre already in the top ten then theres no isse with it. And how dare you be such a hypocrit after youve been using kyles account to feed yourself? Now you want to cry and complain because zynx blew up the huge main you reserved and left you peanuts to raid from kyle afterwards. I gave them the raids to make up for you using kyle's account to tiny them so what's the issue? You've been using that account like a veitnamese prostitute during fleet week and it was funny watching you panic, then power up to feed off the leftover scraps on kyles account. So quit being two faced and whining. You have zero room to point fingers at anyone else. When you stop sucking kyle's titty then come back and talk about what everyone else is doing. Until then go get bent.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Borg! on May 16, 2010, 02:13:20 PM
11 quad ship went boom. I laughed.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jonathan16 on May 16, 2010, 06:56:14 PM
HAHA :) very 2face


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 16, 2010, 08:22:26 PM
I gave them the raids to make up for you using kyle's account to tiny them so

he's admitting to it right here.. i can use kyles account to tiny them all i want as long as i play it seperate from mine.. emi you can do checks my account has not raided kyles account.. there has been no feeding going on


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 16, 2010, 08:26:39 PM
and if something really isn't done about this.. it's been reported.. hell its even been admitted.. two accounts are being fed to keep them where they are at... all accounts should be reset this is an obvious break of tos.. what kind of game are you running if you allow this to go on


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Borg! on May 16, 2010, 08:54:05 PM
Someones buttsore that they made a mistake and I acually made money from being attacked instead of losing it.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Arkan on May 16, 2010, 08:57:08 PM
For one, they're not being fed to stay where they are. Two you're the one who's using another account to attack others you cant keep down on your own as you don't donate for poop and relied on kyle's success to keep you relevent. Now you want to make an issue of something that's not even rule breaking as its been the feeding of accounts to get them into the top ten that's against the rules. Both accounts you're crying about were already in the top ten and remained there even after you used kyle's account to tiny them. You're just throwing a fit because you decided to cheat, by using kyle's account, then got butthurt when you got burnt on the counter, and now you want to make an issue out of something you have no right or moral authority to even bring up. Make all the noise you want, but as no rules were broken, we'll be sitting around watching you sink in the rankings without kyle's account to sponge off of.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 16, 2010, 09:04:55 PM
using another account seperately is not cheating.. your an idiot and yes you gave your alliance members creds and boosted them to places they shouldn't be.. if you wouldn't have given them raids then they wouldn't be where they are at now


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Arkan on May 16, 2010, 09:12:28 PM
thats a totally baseless accusation. if i was letting them raid me more than just last night theyd be much higher in power. You on the other hand only got where you are by raiding kyle's account and planet. I welcome the logs to really be looked at because I know I haven't done anything wrong and I've personally seen you raid kyle's planet several times. So bring it on.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jonathan16 on May 16, 2010, 09:34:16 PM
to back up arkan
yes cam has raided his planet because i put them in them in the chat


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Borg! on May 16, 2010, 10:43:12 PM
I also seem to recall kyle recieving a planet from chicken that was one of the top planets at the time.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 17, 2010, 12:28:20 PM
check it all out... i havent did anything against the rules... the logs are there to look at.. i've never raided kyles account for credits or workers, i took a planet from kyle after he took it from one of you guys which is exactly the same thing a few of your alliance members have done for you


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: SirEmi on May 17, 2010, 11:07:11 PM
I checked the logs and there was no issue with the TOS.

I'm working on improving the raids to reduce the chance of feeding.
When a base is raided successfully, a small random percent of the workers / credits will be destroyed in the raid, much like segments capturing works.



Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 17, 2010, 11:51:26 PM
Edited out, reason: Breaking moderator rules and Space Odyssey TOS

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Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Spayed on May 18, 2010, 01:55:41 AM
booo! ABUSE!!! they are talking about me behind me back emi. please ban them they attacked me


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jonathan16 on May 18, 2010, 03:07:38 AM
omg chat to emi like that cam why the hell you still admin???
you little kide


lol kyle


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Borg! on May 18, 2010, 03:33:22 AM
um spayed. you attacked us acually. I just countered :)


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on May 18, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
your a f**k**g retard... they admitted to it... i knew you would do this nuts anyways since you won't ever follow your own rules especially if someone donates

Spayed I agree feeding should not be allowed however it is not against the TOS.

Or do you see a part about raiding players that are not alts?

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Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 18, 2010, 01:26:38 PM
this has been discussed before and people have gotten in trouble over it before, those players were fed to be put at the spot they were in, if its not against the rules chicken or mj could give certain people raids to be put into the top 10... they even admitted to doing this and nothing... emi doesn't run his own game right, or follow his own rules


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jonathan16 on May 18, 2010, 01:36:12 PM
this has been discussed before and people have gotten in trouble over it before, those players were fed to be put at the spot they were in, if its not against the rules chicken or mj could give certain people raids to be put into the top 10... they even admitted to doing this and nothing... emi doesn't run his own game right, or follow his own rules

what are chicken or mj2 doing wrong?


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 18, 2010, 01:37:55 PM
don't get on here and post ignorant poop not related to this... chicken and mj aren't doing anything wrong


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: V on May 18, 2010, 02:07:23 PM
I tried to stay out of this as it is a moo point (yes "moo" because it is like a cow's opinion - nobody cares!), but seeing as you are hellbent on making a point Cameron, I shall offer my .02 cents.

As it was explained to me, it is not a violation of the TOS until you boost a player who is NOT ALREADY in the top ten, INTO the top 10. I have been in the top 10 for almost, if not all of this round. Fortunately, the counter YOU supplied zynx with (through the use of Kyle's account) gave zynx enough cash (even though he was ALREADY in the top 10) to fortify his top 10 position.

If you have never raided anyone, Cameron, why is your bounty so high?

If I have misinterpreted what I was told by Emi, then I will happily apologize for it, and have my account reset along with every single person who has done the like - including those in previous rounds who would need their top 10 finish stripped from the HoG.
However, I fear that you are only bringing up this issue for fear that YOU will not finish top 10 this round, good sir Cameron.

It is also my belief that without alliance mates and/or "friends", you could not hold a top 10 position alone. If you would like to deny this, please do so on the battle field next round.
What I know about you, Cameron, is that you are a tag-a-long. You either do not have enough time, or do not Choose to have enough time, to dedicate to this game in order to produce the results you like to see, thus you rely on old friends and acquaintances to push you along.
You do not donate, as you told me previously(and have said on the forums), thus you rely on your affiliate credit to give you the required boost at the beginning of each round. You were buttsore last round when you got "screwed out of affiliate credit", probably because you knew it would mean a slower start this round for you, which in turn means more dedicated hours of playtime in the mid-game which you don't have, or don't want to have. Now you're pissed because not only is your account near shot, but so is your feeders account - thank you Borg!. (Oh and if you want to deny this one, I can link your forum post complaining about how the defender has a better advantage through covert ops, which you posted shortly after Borg covert Op'd the huge ship you had in Kyle's reserve tank).

If YOU really want to talk about abuse, Sir Cameron, perhaps we should talk about the multiple times my ships, and planet have been attacked by Kyle's account shortly after I did attacks against you, even though Kyle has been AFK and in his own words: YOU are the only one with his password.

So, all in all, I think you should either put up, or shut up.
---Wes


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 18, 2010, 03:26:38 PM
Emi made up the bullshit reason if your already in the top 10 you can raid all you want because akran donates and he's not going to get onto people who donate... by raiding akran you made yourself unpassable by the few people close below you, who could have without that raid and some luck possibly passed you, so by raiding akran you ensured a higher rank for yourself... its unfair to sat and fest and whoever else is close below you, and as for the counter on kyles account it was perfectly legal he got alot of creds from that counter, i'm sad to see it happen that way in a flawed system, the covert ops are all complete bullshit... every single one of them, there is no advantage to attack anymore, zynx destroyed an 11Q ship in reserve when he didn't even have 1Q credits, he was able to destroy a ship with no powerful ships of his own and without even attacking, how do people not see that this system is flawed, and if your already in top 10 and can still hand out raids to other top 10 members why don't i just raid chicken or mj to get myself to the number 4 spot.. by emi's rules thats perfectly legal?



and lets talk about abuse, have I ever hit your account with my account and kyles account within a 24 hour period? never.. if you hit me, i would hit you with kyles accounts and not use my counters


and you call me a tag along, where would you be if you weren't hanging on akrans nuts?


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Comatose on May 18, 2010, 03:31:26 PM
Emi made up the bullshit reason if your already in the top 10 you can raid all you want because akran donates and he's not going to get onto people who donate... by raiding akran you made yourself unpassable by the few people close below you, who could have without that raid and some luck possibly passed you, so by raiding akran you ensured a higher rank for yourself... its unfair to sat and fest and whoever else is close below you, and as for the counter on kyles account it was perfectly legal he got alot of creds from that counter, i'm sad to see it happen that way in a flawed system, the covert ops are all complete bullshit... every single one of them, there is no advantage to attack anymore, zynx destroyed an 11Q ship in reserve when he didn't even have 1Q credits, he was able to destroy a ship with no powerful ships of his own and without even attacking, how do people not see that this system is flawed, and if your already in top 10 and can still hand out raids to other top 10 members why don't i just raid chicken or mj to get myself to the number 4 spot.. by emi's rules thats perfectly legal?



and lets talk about abuse, have I ever hit your account with my account and kyles account within a 24 hour period? never.. if you hit me, i would hit you with kyles accounts and not use my counters


and you call me a tag along, where would you be if you weren't hanging on akrans nuts?

cam's right. the system is flawed. and emi found no breaking of tos...

f**k..just get rid of covert ops, and do away with raids why dont you? jesus..


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Grondavor on May 18, 2010, 03:43:42 PM
I agree that covert ops is pretty messed up.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jan`go Vhett on May 18, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
check it all out... i havent did anything against the rules... the logs are there to look at.. i've never raided kyles account for credits or workers, i took a planet from kyle after he took it from one of you guys which is exactly the same thing a few of your alliance members have done for you

The only abuse I am seeing is this.
By yours and Kyle's own admittance you are in control of Kyle's account.
That is clearly against the rules as you are helping your own account with another you have control over.
Of course this isn't the first time you have done this as on Wars, before the reset, you and your alt giantterd were trading planets a few times.
So either shut up about nothing getting done about the rules or start playing by them yourself.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 18, 2010, 04:21:19 PM
jan your an idiot shut up...


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Comatose on May 18, 2010, 04:22:30 PM
check it all out... i havent did anything against the rules... the logs are there to look at.. i've never raided kyles account for credits or workers, i took a planet from kyle after he took it from one of you guys which is exactly the same thing a few of your alliance members have done for you

The only abuse I am seeing is this.
By yours and Kyle's own admittance you are in control of Kyle's account.
That is clearly against the rules as you are helping your own account with another you have control over.
Of course this isn't the first time you have done this as on Wars, before the reset, you and your alt giantterd were trading planets a few times.
So either shut up about nothing getting done about the rules or start playing by them yourself.

i think you shouldnt bring personal feelings into this...

but emi..honestly, nobody'll stop bitching unless you do something..


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Grondavor on May 18, 2010, 04:24:18 PM
Ya I agree that the rules in this game need to start being enforced way more.  People get away with cheating far too often....


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 18, 2010, 04:27:47 PM
people always get away with cheating, cheating is never dealt with unless emi doesn't like them or unless its 1 person being complained about by 5000 different people like mikael roy and he wasn't even dealt with right... emi made his own rules and tos to this game and does nothing to enforce it especially if you donate...


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jan`go Vhett on May 18, 2010, 04:30:20 PM
check it all out... i havent did anything against the rules... the logs are there to look at.. i've never raided kyles account for credits or workers, i took a planet from kyle after he took it from one of you guys which is exactly the same thing a few of your alliance members have done for you

The only abuse I am seeing is this.
By yours and Kyle's own admittance you are in control of Kyle's account.
That is clearly against the rules as you are helping your own account with another you have control over.
Of course this isn't the first time you have done this as on Wars, before the reset, you and your alt giantterd were trading planets a few times.
So either shut up about nothing getting done about the rules or start playing by them yourself.

i think you shouldnt bring personal feelings into this...

but emi..honestly, nobody'll stop bitching unless you do something..

What personal feelings?
The only cheating I am seeing here is as stated above.
I reserve personal feelings for private conversations.
You should have picked up on that by now.

As for me being an idiot and shutting up, I think not Cam.

For what it is worth I agree on the Covert Ops.
It seemed like a good idea when it was introduced, but now it doesn't seem to add to the game in any meaningful way.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Comatose on May 18, 2010, 04:53:11 PM
jesus..he's bitching for a f**k**g good reason..j gtfo..your posts dont even try to add to topics..


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Borg! on May 18, 2010, 04:57:32 PM
Jon has a point though... He's perfectly fine with everyone raiding each other, but when he loses the 11q ship suddenly he cares and wants a redo (reset)


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Comatose on May 18, 2010, 04:58:01 PM
im not taking sides. im just agreeing the covert ops sucks


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 18, 2010, 06:28:32 PM
its never okay to raid people like that, and yeah im going to start bitching when the two people right in front of me in ranks get free raids that put them that much farther ahead of me,

oh and jbomb one more ignorant off topic post and i'll ban you myself.. keep it related and to where people can understand what you are saying or just don't post on here


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: V on May 18, 2010, 10:05:51 PM
Emi made up the bullshit reason if your already in the top 10 you can raid all you want because akran donates and he's not going to get onto people who donate...

Actually, this was LAST round when I complained to Emi about all the raiding that both you AND I partook of, in which he clarified this ruling for me.
You are correct that the TOS, and the entire game is up to Emi's interpretation. The beauty in being the creator.


As for where would I be without "arkans nuts"... well, he's not my father, so I would be in exactly the same place as I am now I believe.
In case you did not notice, Arkan and I were increasing at the same rate of speed at the beginning of this round, then we decided on a tactical measure which had me best using my turns for scanning ability. Now, to sincerely answer your question as to where I would be without him - I would be a LOT higher powered than I am now. I fully believe that he, chicken, and bells blue can attest to that fact.
However that is neither here nor there, as this is the tactical path I chose to take.

As for covert ops. I LIKE THEM.
Here is why - in the past we have had many problems with people much higher powered than others using tinies. Well Covert Ops adds a new, interesting element of strategy to the game whereby these lower guys can now injure you if you're not careful. Now, instead of CARELESSLY attacking other players, you have to pick your targets strategically. You have to determine what is the best course of action in attacking, then what is your best course of action in defending that counter YOU supplied.
There are plenty of new strategies to use with this new system that would limit your loss on the counters. I wont explain them in detail but give hints.
1. Splitting cash
2. Tinies
3. Pships
... This is only a FEW of them. If you payed more attention to the updates Emi installs, perhaps you would have known how to protect your 11Q ship in reserve.
But again, you don't for any number of reasons.
I have attacked, and tinied numerous players this round without getting ANY major set-backs via covert op counters. For those of you who are totally against the system, perhaps you should LEARN to use it to your benefit.
But WAIT. Lets take a look at WHO exactly is against it...
1. Grondavor - totally inactive.
2. Truth of mind - another relatively inactive player.
3. Cameron - omg, guess what?! ANOTHER relatively inactive player.

So, until you guys invest the time into this game to actually warrant yourselves a valid opinion. STFU.

Back to the TOPIC AT HAND.
To answer your question about attacking with the 2 accounts within a 24 hour period. I believe the answer is NO. No you have not attacked me with both within 24 hours. However that is NOT the point, Cameron. The point is exactly what you JUST stated, "if you hit me, i would hit you with kyles accounts and not use my counters".

(To clarify exactly what happened here: I tinied the Cameron0788 account. I never attacked Kyle. Cameron then chose to use Kyle's account to Tiny me because his account did not have enough power to hurt my account.)

See, that my friend, in my humble opinion, is breaking THIS section of Space Odyssey's TOS,
"Limitations"
-" You do _not_ use your accounts to help one single account." ---> You said yourself you countered me using Kyle's account, instead of YOURS. That is because you could not do significant damage to me with your own account.

-"You may _not_ finance a lower power account with a higher power one in order to do damage to lower people using the higher account resources" ---> While you claim you did not finance your own account, the principle here remains the same, you used Kyle's "higher account resources" to do damage to "lower people".

-"You do _not_ use your multiple accounts to attack one single target. Your accounts may _not_ help each other in any way." ---> While you did not attack me with both accounts within 24 hours, you said yourself that you used Kyle's account to counter, and you forwent your own accounts counter attack.

-"The multiple accounts should not be used in any way in that would have any connection with another account of the same person. This includes taking advantage of the superior power of a higher account to help or facilitate an action of a lower account or otherwise." ---> Need I go on? You admitted to breaking this section of the TOS earlier in this forum Topic, when you admitted foregoing your counter in order to counter me with Kyle's account.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jonathan16 on May 18, 2010, 10:38:25 PM
its never okay to raid people like that, and yeah im going to start bitching when the two people right in front of me in ranks get free raids that put them that much farther ahead of me,

oh and jbomb one more ignorant off topic post and i'll ban you myself.. keep it related and to where people can understand what you are saying or just don't post on here

your cant read can you

borg could understand what i was on about
and
dont del me post! you a rubbis admin how did you become admin???


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: clouthour on May 19, 2010, 11:07:07 AM
See, that my friend, in my humble opinion, is breaking THIS section of Space Odyssey's TOS,
"Limitations"
-" You do _not_ use your accounts to help one single account." ---> You said yourself you countered me using Kyle's account, instead of YOURS. That is because you could not do significant damage to me with your own account.

-"You may _not_ finance a lower power account with a higher power one in order to do damage to lower people using the higher account resources" ---> While you claim you did not finance your own account, the principle here remains the same, you used Kyle's "higher account resources" to do damage to "lower people".

-"You do _not_ use your multiple accounts to attack one single target. Your accounts may _not_ help each other in any way." ---> While you did not attack me with both accounts within 24 hours, you said yourself that you used Kyle's account to counter, and you forwent your own accounts counter attack.

-"The multiple accounts should not be used in any way in that would have any connection with another account of the same person. This includes taking advantage of the superior power of a higher account to help or facilitate an action of a lower account or otherwise." ---> Need I go on? You admitted to breaking this section of the TOS earlier in this forum Topic, when you admitted foregoing your counter in order to counter me with Kyle's account.


as far as i can see there has been no breaking of the TOS. yes using one account for the benifit for tha other is against the TOS but (as Emi has said before) sharing locations is not a direct violation of the rules. if it was then all aliances are useless. and pls dont say that because he had control of both accounts, it was easier for him cause making ur life easier is not a crime.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: V on May 19, 2010, 05:38:09 PM
Clouth... I dont know why you always comment on my postings. You have an obvious lack of understanding when it comes to my posts, so please do not reply anymore.
You completely and utterly missed the entire point of my post. I dont know whose post you read, but it obviously was not mine.
Locations? wtf are you talking about kid?
Locations has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything in this thread.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Grondavor on May 19, 2010, 10:34:25 PM
ok, the way i see it, NOBODY IN THE TOP 10 SHOULD BE ABLE TO RECEIVE FREE RAIDS FROM ANYONE!!!  The way I see it, giving somebody a raid to KEEP their top 10 spot is the same as giving them a raid INTO the top 10, and that should not be allowed. If you are int eh top ten you should be good enough to get money and woorkers for yourself and shouldnt rely on your alliance mates to help you along...

As for the covert ops, i see now wes's point.  There are a lot of good things covert ops adds tot he game, and if you get a big ship in reserve blown up, its your fault for giving them the counter.  I am taking my vote for getting rid of covert ops away.  :p


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: TNTTony on May 19, 2010, 10:36:52 PM
So much has happened in this round, I can't believe I decided to stay out of it  :)

From reading the entire thread as well as talking to several people involved, it seems there are three issues that are causing problems. I have unblocked this thread because I strongly believe we need more discussion on this.


1.  I understand that sir emi is the big boss in this game and he can change the rules any time he wants. However, there are two rules that he had not included in the term of service. The first is the ability to control two accounts as long as you are using them separately. The problem with this rule is that it is very easy to abuse and can cause much confusion. For example, Cameron controlled Kyle's account and used the account to attack Wesley. This is done sometime after Wesley attacked Cameron. One could argue that this was valid, if Kyle was playing he would have attacked Wesley anyway. However, one can also argue that Cameron knew what kind of ships Wesley was running and therefore gave him an advantage. The best thing to do is to just remove this rule. It causes too much confusion. The second rule is that you can raid people as long as they are already in the top 10. The main problem with this is that it is often difficult for the average player to know if someone is in the top 10. I can very easily hide my wealth so I am no longer in the top 10. Maybe I decided to sell or reserve my ships for Couple days and now I am in the top 20 instead of the top 10. If we are to keep this rule we would need some more rules to unequivocally confirm the players are indeed in the top 10. I can easily just use power ships to power me into the top 10 for a few days and give the impression that I was in the top 10.

I believe these two rules are causing a lot of confusion and can easily be abused. So we either have to change it, remove it or create new rules to make sure they can not be abused.


2.  I think Cameron's ban is justified and maybe even the removal of his admin rights. I can't read sir emi mind but I would hope that he gave Cameron some warning first and maybe even get him a temporary ban before he gave him a 30 day ban and removal of his admin rights. We all must remember that Cameron, like many others, have played this game for a long time and has seen things in this game that is very inefficient and very unfair. I truly believe that his anger comes from his passion and trying to make the game fair.


3.  This is a tough world. Although I believe that we should all be respectful with each other, I also believe that we need to have a tough skin. We cannot get offended with every single comment or insult directed to us. We cannot always report this sort of stuff all the time. I believe that if it occurs repeatedly then the moderators should  do something about it. However, we all need to be a bit stronger in terms of taking offence to certain things.

There you go  :)






Title: Re: abusee
Post by: V on May 19, 2010, 10:54:47 PM
So much has happened in this round, I can't believe I decided to stay out of it  :)
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One could argue that this was valid, if Kyle was playing he would have attacked Wesley anyway.


I can't believe you sat this one out either! I'm disappointed! ; )

The problem is that I knew Kyle was NOT playing... Otherwise I would have properly defended myself because as you said - I would have known he would attack me as well.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Grondavor on May 19, 2010, 11:10:33 PM
I agree with Tony that nobody should be allowed to have more than one account.  It causes a lot of confusion as to whether cretain things are breaking alt rules, and gets a lot of people very angry.  Also, this rule would get rid of people having multiple accounts int he top 10(which I tihnk is very unfair).


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Borg! on May 20, 2010, 06:43:31 AM
So much has happened in this round, I can't believe I decided to stay out of it  :)
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One could argue that this was valid, if Kyle was playing he would have attacked Wesley anyway.


I can't believe you sat this one out either! I'm disappointed! ; )

The problem is that I knew Kyle was NOT playing... Otherwise I would have properly defended myself because as you said - I would have known he would attack me as well.

also if Kyle was playing. He'd be much too high up to even hit anyone.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jonathan16 on May 20, 2010, 10:04:51 AM
tony of your last line you say

2) trying to make the game fair.

Wrong he took the anger out on me because, i got his admin took of him in forum.
he attacked my planet with kyle account yesurday but still never got it he spent Q1.3 and still never took it.

My point being is.
 
so being fair that lot of crap because, if he was a fair player he would not of use kyle account for attacking others!
that kinder 2faced if you ask me.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: clouthour on May 20, 2010, 11:00:11 AM
Clouth... I dont know why you always comment on my postings. You have an obvious lack of understanding when it comes to my posts, so please do not reply anymore.
You completely and utterly missed the entire point of my post. I dont know whose post you read, but it obviously was not mine.
Locations? wtf are you talking about kid?
Locations has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything in this thread.

actually i dont think u understood me. i meant the location from the counter since he obviously didnt attack u using his own account, he must have used the location on another account. this location sharing is not alt abuse :P


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: TNTTony on May 20, 2010, 06:43:27 PM
tony of your last line you say

2) trying to make the game fair.

Wrong he took the anger out on me because, i got his admin took of him in forum.
he attacked my planet with kyle account yesurday but still never got it he spent Q1.3 and still never took it.

If he attacked you in game then that is the way it should be. I'm not specifically pointing you but people in general should put their problems "in the game". If you have a grudge against someone, harness this grudge in the game.

If you read my post you would understand that I think people should not be able to control 2 accounts even if they are using it legally and above board. Using 2 accounts causes other players too much confusion.

Quote

My point being is.
 
so being fair that lot of crap because, if he was a fair player he would not of use kyle account for attacking others!
that kinder 2faced if you ask me.

I repeat: Using 2 accounts should be removed because it causes too much confusion. In your scenario it is perfectly within the rules to use Kyle account to attack your planet as long as he doesn't use his other account against you at the same time. Even the big boss of the game agrees with this.

This is why I think using 2 accounts should be removed, it causes too much confusion and people will complain even if it is used properly.

Jonathan, although I respect that you are a player in this game. I hope you don't mind me giving you constructive criticism: If possible, please be more articulate in your post. Sometimes, it is difficult to understand what you're trying to say and it comes out the wrong way.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jonathan16 on May 20, 2010, 06:58:00 PM
i dont mind tony about constructive criticism if i never got any, i would just keep it up and i would not no i am doing it. so i like having it.

but when people start saying like ( retard ect ) then i dont like it.

btw i am ( dyslexic ) - i bad at english side

lots of different people are dyslexic and each person is different.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Borg! on May 20, 2010, 07:02:11 PM
Apparently the criticism didn't sink in.





 :D


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Grondavor on May 20, 2010, 07:10:19 PM
lol.  yes, tony is absolutely right.  The two accounts rule, in my opinion, is messed up anyway.  For instance, if I had 2 accounts, one slightly more pwerful, and somebody attacks my lower account because they know that they can beat my lower accounts resources.  It would be very unfair in this situation if I then used my higher account to kill the person when they never attacked that account.  (this is technically not currently against the rules as long as i dont attack him with the lower account also within 24 hours).  This rule seems a bit flawed, and having 2 accounts should just be banned altogether.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jonathan16 on May 20, 2010, 07:12:42 PM
lol.  yes, tony is absolutely right.  The two accounts rule, in my opinion, is messed up anyway.  For instance, if I had 2 accounts, one slightly more pwerful, and somebody attacks my lower account because they know that they can beat my lower accounts resources.  It would be very unfair in this situation if I then used my higher account to kill the person when they never attacked that account.  (this is technically not currently against the rules as long as i dont attack him with the lower account also within 24 hours).  This rule seems a bit flawed, and having 2 accounts should just be banned altogether.

HELL YEA


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: V on May 21, 2010, 03:09:29 AM
actually i dont think u understood me. i meant the location from the counter since he obviously didnt attack u using his own account, he must have used the location on another account. this location sharing is not alt abuse :P

Once again. You don't play main - don't comment, as you don't understand.
In Main, you do not NEED a location to make an attack.
So once again, please stop commenting on my posts, and stick to the Wars forum.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Borg! on May 21, 2010, 05:35:29 AM
aaah if you are dyslexic that does explain a lot. My cousin is dyslexic, so I can understand.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: clouthour on May 21, 2010, 07:41:13 AM
actually i dont think u understood me. i meant the location from the counter since he obviously didnt attack u using his own account, he must have used the location on another account. this location sharing is not alt abuse :P

Once again. You don't play main - don't comment, as you don't understand.
In Main, you do not NEED a location to make an attack.
So once again, please stop commenting on my posts, and stick to the Wars forum.


i remember u saying that it was a counter meaning it has to be a full assault and not a remote attack and for that u need a location. if it was a remote assault then wats ur problem? there is no alt abuse there either :P


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: V on May 21, 2010, 09:09:52 AM
i remember u saying that it was a counter meaning it has to be a full assault and not a remote attack and for that u need a location. if it was a remote assault then wats ur problem? there is no alt abuse there either :P

 :wallbash: Kid, how many times do I need to ask you to stay out of it... You OBVIOUSLY do not understand anything about SO Main... :pistols: :9:


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: deezee66 on May 21, 2010, 11:21:05 AM
JBomb what in the hell are you trying to do? You should not even be in this conversation, if you have nothing credable to ad stay out of it. Oh btw is your dad still setting up your attacks you? :lol_sign:


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jonathan16 on May 21, 2010, 11:28:56 AM
he never has you a dum dum


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: clouthour on May 21, 2010, 11:44:29 AM
actually i dont think u understood me. i meant the location from the counter since he obviously didnt attack u using his own account, he must have used the location on another account. this location sharing is not alt abuse :P

Once again. You don't play main - don't comment, as you don't understand.
In Main, you do not NEED a location to make an attack.
So once again, please stop commenting on my posts, and stick to the Wars forum.

 :wallbash:Kid, how many times do I need to ask you to stay out of it... You OBVIOUSLY do not understand anything about SO Main... :pistols: :9:

i remember u saying that it was a counter meaning it has to be a full assault and not a remote attack and for that u need a location. if it was a remote assault then wats ur problem? there is no alt abuse there either :P

ok first of all learn how to use quotes and secondly pls tell me one thing in that post which is wrong


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: V on May 21, 2010, 07:37:05 PM
ok first of all learn how to use quotes and secondly pls tell me one thing in that post which is wrong

lol oops! I was in a hurry and that got screwed way up somehow. Anyway, I fixed it.
As for whats wrong with your post... If you don't know then you really just shouldn't comment.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: deezee66 on May 21, 2010, 10:20:11 PM
he never has you a dum dum

actually you told everyone your dad didnt allow you to make an attack until he checked it over. Now do i have to go through thousands of alliance logs to prove it or are you going to admit it?


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jonathan16 on May 21, 2010, 10:24:50 PM
go for it good luck


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: clouthour on May 22, 2010, 12:40:46 PM
As for whats wrong with your post... If you don't know then you really just shouldn't comment.

see now that just makes me think that u dont know wat u r talking about and that i was right :P


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Spayed on May 23, 2010, 07:48:41 AM
god cant u all just agree...

stop attacking my account. i demand you all feed me and put me in first.. i shouldnt have to give up my position just beucase i quit :P


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Jonathan16 on May 23, 2010, 10:40:54 AM
lol :))


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Grondavor on May 23, 2010, 03:55:41 PM
alright spayed....  this isnt burger king..  YOU DONT GET IT YOUR WAY!   :P


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: V on May 23, 2010, 07:37:52 PM
I have an idea... cause a database lag and cheat your way to the top, Kyle...  :P


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Spayed on May 27, 2010, 11:51:10 PM
hmm good idea. how we do that?


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: V on May 27, 2010, 11:51:57 PM
... You tell me  B-)


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Spayed on May 27, 2010, 11:53:53 PM
well first you have to erm blow emi, get a credit card, max it out on spaceo, blow emi some more, ask for a favor and presto. you win an unfair advantage :D


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Borg! on May 28, 2010, 01:49:10 AM
I think I saw that tactic on the wiki. I heard it works pretty good but I never thought of trying it myself


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Spayed on May 28, 2010, 01:56:36 AM
yea its proven to work :D


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: V on May 28, 2010, 01:57:47 AM
I thought we agreed not to mention this again, Kyle!?


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Darth Bobo on May 28, 2010, 04:25:06 AM
OK, I've got to get my 2 cents in since I have donated over $500 to the game.  I might as well make it $500.02 :12: At any rate I think that the best way to solve all this debate is to put in a subscription fee and make everyone pay a one time entry fee into the tournament round, that offers prizes based on the entry fee. Like a poker tournament. And just use donations for wars and PVE. Say 20% goes to the house er Sir Emi and rest goes to the prize pool for the round. If ya don't pay the fee to get in then ya can't play except on wars or PVE.  L:)


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Saturn 7 on May 28, 2010, 06:22:31 AM
Then I'd get chucked out of SpaceO main!  :(


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Borg! on May 28, 2010, 07:16:30 AM
that's a terrible idea darth. only post ideas about main if you play main. I think that should be a rule.


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Cameron07 on May 28, 2010, 02:43:02 PM
yup terrible idea


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Grondavor on May 30, 2010, 12:41:32 AM
lol never gonna happen, but thanks for trying!  come again


Title: Re: abusee
Post by: Pirate55 on June 04, 2010, 02:38:51 PM
yea dumb idea, considering were trying to gain players, not lose them...