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No nebula; New technology called line of Sight Blocker allows you to be "nebbed" from an/the individual who has attacked you three times in the last 24 hour
New money mission. Reward is the same for everyone, but mission difficulty and power is determined by wealth
New Conflict Device that once activated and developed will destroy 99-99.9% the wealth(same as taking 2 or 3 0's from their power) of the top twenty! Top twenty can attack anyone at this time using within 0-120% of the defender's power. When top twenty player gets halved he loses random 1/3 of CP and level. After the Conflict Device is used, half the top twenties stolen wealth is distributed evenly to all other players.
When powering down to attack, you are allowed 1250 ships MAX. This will rid the tinyman abuse.
Smaller players should have the following option when attacking a massive player:
    Attack>Pick which fleet to attack given list of fleets' powers>Attack only this fleet
When a massive player attacks a smaller player he will be "skulled"- he will have a skull status which will allow others to attack for 24 hours and he will have less HP.
Every time someone attacks he will be given credits just for going to war. Afterall, war is a great economy booster.


You can see changes, and arguments for and against this in: Save Sowars lets think up some stuff

Um ,please don't clone topics,you already posted it in other thread.

To mods:
Lock and remove please.

The other didn't have a poll. Show me how to put a poll on the other and I will remove this.

Oh, sorry, this browser doesn't dispay anything but posts :(

Apologies....

Mods, Correction:
Move to suggestions please.

i havent voted, but im against any drastic change. i know i once called for a way to destroy the uses of tinymen. ive changed.

a major change to the wars server would make it less war-like. keep it the way it is.

Many don't feel that way, if you voted you might see this. Please make your voice heard and vote.


"No"-votes will be the number in the second option, as the one who votes for the third will also vote for the second.

i let my voice be heard on other topics. i voted on your request though. i disagree with all but the skull part.

lets define this more clearly:

player A with 1 tril power attacks player B with 100 bil power. player A then is 'skulled'
instead of just allowing other players to attack player A, how about player A has coordinates permanently on Intel until the counter of player B is up.

and 1 other thing to go with it, im not sure how others will take, im not even sure if i like it myself :P but ill post it

if player A gets successfully attacked during this time, then player B receieves 1/10 of the segs/damages that he lost in the original attack. just something to think about...

That's not what my definition of skull was, but I'm open to it.

The skulling system sounds good, IMO.

Topic moved to suggestions.  :)

you cant see anything the topic has be cleared out on the moved would be nice if the entire topic would have been moved or only your suggestion.

the powering down when you attack some 1 wont work i just attack some 1 then power down my self so when he needs to power down to get me he gets the penalty of only getting a fleet of 1250 ships.

the attack pick option wont work either you take a major fleet of tiny titans and just take out mission ships that were once saved from direct attack.

No nebula; New technology called line of Sight Blocker allows you to be "nebbed" from an/the individual who has attacked you three times in the last 24 hour
O yeahs plz put this in then it will be so ezy to kill sowars in a single day you can finaly get out the torch and pitchforks and just 20 man some 1 by attacking him 60 times.

the new conflict device no ty i will make sure im on spot 21 before i activate it and since 99.9% of the wealth is destroyed on activation the top 20 cant attack no 1 since they have no cash wich brings me back to the point here above.

on the skull part define a massive player does that factor in he has 10 fleets of tiny titans or is it based on FP alone.

I voted no, and mostly for the obvious reasons of all suggestions being subpar and skewed to encourage mediocre play.

If you play solidly over the long haul you will become a force on the war server.

If you want random senseless violence, SO Wars is not for you.

couldnt have said better myself... I vote No

If you could power down so far that we will have to power down to use 1250 ships then he must be too powerful for you and this system just saved you for your natural spot is lower than his.

If lower than you wants to waste his money on tinymen to attack your ship then he probably will lose all his money in the pocess.

And the 20 men will be attacked as well... It will round everyone off.

Allow me to describe the conflict device again.
Their are researchers. 20 researchers are needed to begin research. Research happens over a 24 hour period in which total chaos happens. The top twenty will have a chance to attack at this time before their money is taken away. If the researchers stay in the top 200 because the top twenty were unable to attack, the top twenty lose 2-3 digits from their power. Again if you could get low enough to be in spot 21 while the others around 30 are trying to get lower then you but can't, then this is your natural spot.

Which do you think would be more effective?






For further use, allow me to define natural rank/spot as the rank at which you would be if you did not have the fat- the pships and such.




Please, elucidate these reasons with facts as they are not obvious to me.

I had thought the war server was about war. What is it about, Tzarkoth?

"Allow me to describe the conflict device again.
Their are researchers. 20 researchers are needed to begin research. Research happens over a 24 hour period in which total chaos happens. The top twenty will have a chance to attack at this time before their money is taken away. If the researchers stay in the top 200 because the top twenty were unable to attack, the top twenty lose 2-3 digits from their power. Again if you could get low enough to be in spot 21 while the others around 30 are trying to get lower then you but can't, then this is your natural spot."

I told myself I wont try to explain why this is such a bad idea but it justs bugs me to no end. Instead of fighting with you, I will let you go on with your train of thought and see where it leads to.

20 researches you say is needed to begin this research. Please elaborate on how you project this research to be achieved. Please state the prerequisites to the tech. Also pls indicate if this research will reset itself after its been successfully initiated or not.

Please elaborate what is meant by total chaos during this 24hr window. What will you expect during this time frame. You mention that the top 20 will begin attacking. Please elaborate whom might this top 20 begin targeting and what would be the expected result from it.

Alright, now, consider that bullets and plasma fly during this 24hr window and that of the top 20, 10 went on a rampage, while 10 reserved their fleets and spent 3/4 of their credits to get new fleets. How do you account for this?

Also, Im not sure what you meant by if the researchers are still in the 200 rankings after this, the top 20 will lose 2-3 digits of their power. Is this before or after they lose their credits? How do you propose to do such a thing? What if there isnt enough credits on hand to drop the power by that you proposed. What else do you plan on taking away?

These are some things which I cannot comprehend, so please feel free to elaborate and help me understand your view.

Please list ALL your ideas together, I remember seeing something about removing 1/3 cps/lvls from the top20. Also that if someone of higher power attacks a person of lower power they receive skulls? please elaborate also. I am curious.

Well, sir, allow me to begin such elaborations. It sounds like I have a lot of elaboration to do and I will do it to the best of my abilities. If you have any more questions about the Conflict Device, you might want to log onto main and observe the DDay on which it is based.

Allow me to begin:
Prereq: unnecessarily* level 200 and top 200 rank. A top twenty player would also be allowed to research if he wishes to do so.
This conflict device will be reset and may be researched again given the prereqs.

The top twenty would naturally target the researchers who wish to rob the top of their resources. If a researcher falls bellow rank 200 in this 24 hr research period, the research would stop and the day would be saved.

Are you suggesting that the twenty who were in the top twenty at the beginning of the research be locked into said research? I think that would be terrific. I'll make a poll of it.

If the researchers manage to keep their top 200 rank for a full 24 hr, they would activate the Conflict Device. At the exact moment after this 24 hr period the Conflict Device will be activated, the top twenty will loose some: ships (reserved and not), credits, workers, segments, command points, experience, research, and level.

Again they will lose an amount unnecessarily* equal to 1/3 of their CP.

The skulling system suggested by myself was such that a higher player, who must power down(use a fraction of his power) in order to gain an otherwise impotent ability to attack another player, will be of the status "skull." While "skulled" a player will observe a fractionally reduced hp and an absence of a protective nebula.
While I may have suggested said reduction and absence, others have presented alternative symptoms.



*I say unnecessarily because such numbers are not set in stone.

Ok, I see one problem- top twenty annihilating the researchers. If they get good attack chance, no-one will research, out of fear. If the chance remains as it is, it will get abused. Neither is fair.

This whole thread is a pointless exercise imo. I'll qualify that statement below.

If you want to reset power every so often, then play SO Main.

Any suggestion that turns SO Wars into more of an real time game as opposed to a turn based one, I am ardently against. Introducing D-Day type mechanics that have 24 hour timers are patently ludicrous, for a perpetual turn based strategy game

In fact take this whole thread and move it to the "We would like to start another server with these rules" section.

If people want to mix it up at the low and mid power ranges, by all means go right ahead. If people want to stop their trifling minor wars, band together and bring the fight to the top rankers, then by all means go ahead. If you want to play alts and mutually destroy each other in the mid power ranges, again, that is your choice.

If you want to introduce some arbitrary mechanic to the game that destroys my years (Well So War is almost exactly 1 years old) of hard work, then, quite frankly, no. But years, yes because alot of us played So Main before So Wars and we did not like it, because it reset.

Change is not always for the better, and some ideas just need to be discarded. This idea is not for SO Wars I am afraid.

" it is pretty much impossible for me to grow at all. its very simple for the people with loads of cash to take a big chunk of my segments everytime i go over 1/2 a million segs. and the more powerful ships i put up to protect my self the huger my loss when uberpwnsraid me, and i cant earn decent interest on my extra cash because somehow by some un-effin-believable stretch of imagination, my bank account is somehow dictated by my # of workers. on the up side, it has been a bit harder for people to raid my base. basically all i can do is hoard my 2% and hope i make enough to replace ships at a faster rate than i lose them. so far i have been breaking even. i haven't grown 1%." (please don mention stabilizers at 32 a player 10 times my power 0'd me in 1 shot.)

 Because of that i think a new server with new ideas is good. HOWEVER no nebula/sight blocker is ridiculous, you would be farmed out in a heart beat with every player lining up to take their three free attacks.