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« on: December 20, 2008, 09:21:19 PM » |
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Falcona(#4753)
2008-12-17 15:03:43
alt abuse
Jessiedog,
We have been constantly attacked by these people. Ive asked around and found that imperial treasury is either qualopec’s or jangovhett’s alternate. But I myself have deduced that all three are the same person. Supposedly qualopec is jangovhett’s brother, but I don’t believe it. As proven here, funlol is also jangovhett’s alternate. I don’t currently have a forum account, so please post this there for more.
Much obliged,
Falc
Seven of Nine (#5308) 2008-12-16 23:44:38
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
Imperial treasury(#4867) attacked your from deep space.
Imperial treasury(#4867) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 1 ships.
Imperial treasury(#4867)s attack failed.
Imperial treasury(#4867) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-16 23:50:05
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
Qualopec(#1064) attacked your from deep space.
Qualopec(#1064) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 391685256 ships.
Qualopec(#1064)s attack failed.
Qualopec(#1064) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-16 23:51:11
FULL ASSAULT - BOARD!!!
Qualopec(#1064) boarded your fleet and mothership.
Qualopec(#1064) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 1 ships.
You spent 39.239.393.806 credits to ressuply the fleets with marines.
Qualopec(#1064)s attack failed.
Qualopec(#1064) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-16 23:58:25
Evaded Attack!
Evil Genius(#720)'s fleet and mothership tried to attack your mothership.
Your slim mothership engines were able to evade the attacking mothership.
You are safe for now... but your hasty retreat warped you into unknown territory...
12-17 11:11:13
Hornblower (#6519) 2008-12-13 15:00:13
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 5 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:00:59
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 55 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:02:37
FULL ASSAULT - BOARD!!!
funlol(#9720) boarded your fleet and mothership.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 44 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:04:09
FULL ASSAULT - BOARD!!!
funlol(#9720) boarded your fleet and mothership.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 44 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
You spent 4.254.800 credits to ressuply the fleets with marines.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:07:26
FULL ASSAULT - SCOUT!!!
Scouting party identified as belonging to funlol(#9720).
The enemy could not locate your secret base.
You ambushed funlol(#9720) scouting party.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 44 of your ships and lost 6 ships.
2008-12-13 15:07:59
FULL ASSAULT - BOARD!!!
funlol(#9720) boarded your fleet and mothership.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 44 of your ships and lost 12 ships.
You spent 12.858.000 credits to ressuply the fleets with marines.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:08:21
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 55 of your ships and lost 12 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:08:29
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 33045 of your ships and lost 12 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:08:41
FULL ASSAULT - BOARD!!!
funlol(#9720) boarded your fleet and mothership.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 40000 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:09:25
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 10004 of your ships and lost 7 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:09:48
FULL ASSAULT - BOARD!!!
funlol(#9720) boarded your fleet and mothership.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 1 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
You spent 36.565.200 credits to ressuply the fleets with marines.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:10:12
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:10:28
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:13:03
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:13:21
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:13:39
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:13:52
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:14:03
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:15:09
FULL ASSAULT - BOARD!!!
funlol(#9720) boarded your fleet and mothership.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
You spent 61.528.320 credits to ressuply the fleets with marines.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:15:59
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
funlol(#9720) attacked your from deep space.
funlol(#9720) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 0 ships.
funlol(#9720)s attack failed.
funlol(#9720) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:16:07
Evaded Attack!
Jan`go Vhett(#4692)'s fleet and mothership tried to attack your mothership.
Your slim mothership engines were able to evade the attacking mothership.
You are safe for now... but your hasty retreat warped you into unknown territory...
12-13 17:51:42
Falcona (#4753) 2008-12-13 15:04:40
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
Imperial treasury(#4867) attacked your from deep space.
Imperial treasury(#4867) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 1 ships.
Imperial treasury(#4867)s attack failed.
Imperial treasury(#4867) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-13 15:07:01
Evaded Attack!
Jan`go Vhett(#4692)'s fleet and mothership tried to attack your mothership.
Your slim mothership engines were able to evade the attacking mothership.
You are safe for now... but your hasty retreat warped you into unknown territory...
12-13 17:08:59
Falcona(#4753)
2008-12-20 21:18:20
blatent alt abuse
he used this alt to spy on us, then admitted it was him.
2008-12-20 20:01:39
FULL ASSAULT - REGULAR!!!
Bobika(#9656) attacked your from deep space.
Bobika(#9656) destroyed 0 of your ships and lost 1 ships.
Bobika(#9656)s attack failed.
Bobika(#9656) fleet was no match for your forces.
2008-12-20 20:57:48
Evaded Attack!
Qualopec(#1064)'s fleet and mothership tried to attack your mothership.
Your slim mothership engines were able to evade the attacking mothership.
You are safe for now... but your hasty retreat warped you into unknown territory...
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id say its a good time to do an IP check, but jan and qual say they are brothers. i believe them, but ive heard that bobika is qual's alt, making at least 1 of these alt abuse.
im just the messanger, to make it easier on me, if u read this emi/snipe, please contact falcona in-game
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And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With old odd ends, stol'n forth of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.
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AFB
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2008, 04:00:48 AM » |
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I'd say qualo and jango are completely different, cos I talked with both.
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Seither
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2008, 11:48:19 AM » |
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Jango is in my alliance, and he is BARELY active.
Also, you have attacks from several other people there as well who you don't mention, looks liek you jsut left yourself too exposed, and you have not given any PROOF of alts other than saying the attacks prove it, and then a message saying he spied on you (not against ToS btw) and then admitted it, but you do not show the message in which he DID admit it.
There is no case here. At all. Just attacks of a bunch of people from when you were left open apparently. I had a similar attack log when i got back on a week ago because my ships got blasted and then i had 0 ships when my neb expired before i managed to get on. If you only lose your ships, and they=not 20% (or was it 40%, can't remember) of your power, you don't neb, and thus you are wide open for the picking.
Until we recieve further evidence, there is no case. And any attacks against Jango other than counters claimin they are retaliation will result in full war with G-unit. I won't have my members harrassed needlessly when we don't deserve it.
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jessiedog
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2008, 03:30:36 PM » |
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siether... this is wars server...
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And thus I clothe my naked villainy
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And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.
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waylain16
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2008, 12:56:28 AM » |
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Yea calm down siether
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Cameron07
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2008, 01:29:18 AM » |
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meh told ya everyone hated seither.. and ya.. i mean nothing ever gets looked into around here but thats worth looking into.. i could hit someone with 235234 alts in the same day and nothing happen
sigh dont insult - FTP
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Seither
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2008, 03:28:28 AM » |
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first, war server was not stated, thus assumed main. Thus defensive, as on main, he=one of my men and people always have slandered g-unit (the missions are proof enough, with all the hate g-unit ones out there). Since its on wars, meh , I don't care then, but the fact of that there is no proof in the logs posted does stand, we need more before emi would look into it.
and Emi does look into it when he has time Cameron, it just takes a while, and 99% of the time it's either not against ToS or not alts.
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Cameron07
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2008, 12:55:47 PM » |
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meh.. doesnt look into them, and everyone still hates you
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jessiedog
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2008, 12:05:15 AM » |
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if emi had looked into this one he would have noticed that most of the accounts register the same IP...
although to justify both sides, brothers
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And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With old odd ends, stol'n forth of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2008, 12:14:27 AM » |
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there are 5 accounts...
imperial treasury
qualopec
jango vhett
and bobika
i know imperial treasury is an alt of either qualopec or jan, and bobika is an alt of either qualopec or jan... im not sure though... either way it would be alt abuse... if u dont count funlol...
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Seither
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2008, 04:10:01 PM » |
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as far as i can see, even from those log posts, the accounts are being played seperately. I asked around, and that seems to be the only coordinated attack any of those accounts.
And how do you "know" Mobius? anyone can state they know someone is someone's alt, but you need to back it up, not to be rude. (which is the reason emi doesn't look into some things, because no one provides decent reasonable suspicion, usually its attack logs like this, with NO other attacks on any other players. Hitting 1 player like that could just be a coordinated attack, multiple people would be more likely to be alt abuse.)
and once again, IP doesn't always mean alt abuse. I go over to my friend Sriphoor's house and play sometimes on is computer, which would mean at those times, I have his IP, instead of my own.
In a game like this, there is just no way to really tell, hence why even real alt abuse is rarely punished.
Just get some of your allianced alliances to team up with you to bash the heck out of them. That usually puts a stop to the attacks.
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2008, 04:47:56 PM » |
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well hes told me several times... but im his friend so im not going to go dig up something just to get him in trouble... he could have given the account to anybody anyways
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2008, 09:55:51 PM » |
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siether, most of these are commonly known facts for the group of people that regularly talk on pub chat on wars. other than that we know stuff like this because Jan is in PoF. also not to be rude, but where do you come in? mob me and cam are in same alliance as jan AFB is in alliance as qualopec, imperial treasury, woot and well, Yea calm down siether
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And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With old odd ends, stol'n forth of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2008, 02:36:48 AM » |
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i come in because on main, jango is in my alliance. If i had know it was wars they were talking about, i never would have posted.
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