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« on: September 25, 2008, 07:39:26 AM » |
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How does adding multiple shields, computers, and weapons affect the ABS and ACU? How do they add up to make the total for the ship?
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 12:19:54 PM » |
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read through the rest of this section. the answer is there.
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2008, 01:36:58 PM » |
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I believe that the base ACU from the weapons is averaged out, but I am not quite sure.
If I remember correctly, ABS and computer ACC give a diminishing return. The first component in the line-up will always give 100% of its bonus. The next might add something like 50%, then 33%. I'm not quite sure about the exact numbers, though.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 02:25:39 PM » |
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ya chronos is right.. the more u put on the less effictive each one you add on is
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 02:50:53 PM » |
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There's also a bit of a retrocraptive thing going on. for example, two shields of 40% abs and 1% abs will yield <40%.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2008, 06:26:51 PM » |
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It all depends on what order the shields are evaluated, if I remember correctly. You could get 100% of the 1 point and 50% of the 40 points. I don't think anybody knows what the exact ordering scheme is.
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2008, 07:05:02 PM » |
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the equations for abs and accuracy are both different.
for accuracy, u get 100% of your first weapon. weapons and computers are different averages though. if you have a 20% accuracy weapon and a 40% accuracy weapon. that will yeild 30% accuracy. now if you add to that a 20% accuracy and a 10% accuracy, that will add 15% accuracy. the attack is also lessened for every weapon on a ship.
sheilds are similar to the accuracy equation. most people will be able to figure out a simple and adequate version of it by taking what i said above, but i dont feel like giving out what ive got cuz it took me a long time to figure out... basically im greedy like every other person in the world.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2008, 10:18:25 PM » |
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greed is understood, but didn't think that info was so coveted.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2008, 12:14:54 AM » |
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If information wasn't coveted, there would be no need for spies.
Many people who have been playing this for a while have had to figure things out or had help from people in their alliance.
I know I wouldn't give things out that would possibly give someone a better chance of winning.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2008, 02:51:16 PM » |
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well ive gone through at least 3 different sheild equations that i thought were right until i ended up with what i have now. i think its right, it works for what i use, but i havent tested it fully enough to officially say its the one.
info is the key to doing well in this game. info 1st, strategy 2nd, time 3rd
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2008, 06:33:02 PM » |
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how does acc and abs effect hp and attack, respectively?
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2008, 07:22:09 PM » |
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the accuracy % is what portion of the shown attack is actually dealt.
if the ship has 1000 atk and 50% accuracy, 500 damage will be dealt
abs is quite different, it affects hp
multiply the shown hp * 100/(100-abs%)
thats the legit amount of hp your ship has. abs will also effect marine losses in board attacks.
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2008, 08:28:27 PM » |
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A simpler equation there jess is hp * 1.X X = abs.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2008, 08:42:45 PM » |
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Absorb
All incomming damage is multiplied by the complement of absorb before being applied to a fleet. That is, if 1.000 damage is dealt and one's fleet has an absorb of 60%, then the total damage dealt would be 1.000 * 60% = 600 1.000 * (100% - 60%) = 1.000 * 40% = 400.
If you wanted to combine absorb and hitpoints together obtain an "effective" hitpoints, simply divide the hitpoints by the complement of the absorb percentage. That is, if one's ship has 5.000 hitpoints and 25% absorb, then it has effective hitpoints of 5.000 / 50%= 5.000 * 2 = 10.000 hitpoints 5.000 / (100 - 25%) = 5.000 / 75% = 5.000 * 4/3 = 6.667 hitpoints.
I'll explain later, if need be.
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2008, 12:25:20 AM » |
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1.000 * 60% = 600. you mean 1.000 * (1-.6) = 400 damage dealth out of initial 1000 ---
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