Encryption missions multiplier

[al3xazz]

suggestion- maybe we should have a test before lounching this?

[Tzarkoth]

Hmmm .... How to say this. The segment multiplier is a great idea, we certainly need it.

However, if you put the multiplier at 10, and get 10 items as well ... There's nothing stopping you wandering around the Galaxy and cherry picking the item rewards. ie Only take a single multiplier on the combat items and taking a * 10 multiplier on Workers, Credits and turns.

At around 500 Encrypt level you are talking +50 Turn Items, + 500 Million Credits.

So it wouldn't be hard to imagine you capable of doing a *10 Multiplier on a +50 Turns item and pocketing 500 turns. Costs you 91 turns to gain 500 turns ... anyone else see the issue here ?

This wouldn't help the lower end of the game, in fact once you got to a certain encryption level, you would effectively have INFINITE, credits, and turns. The game would be devoid of skill and whoever clicks the most would win.

Having the segment reward multiplier is a good idea. Multiplying the item rewards is a bad idea.

I misread the original post, in that I thought the multiplier was only going to apply to segments gained from Encryptions. Please do not also apply the multiplier to the Items reward aspect of it. As I said previously, if people want to micro manage explore and gain items then let them do it the old fashion way, that rewards more time spent playing. But for those who just want to burn turns quickly to gain SEGMENTS, then have the multiplier function.

Increasing Segments reward = Good.

Increasing Item Rewards = BAD.

[Silence444]

hmmm how about 1 listed item plus X many random equivalent items for your multiplier? this will essentially replicate finding the missions naturally and should solve the turn problem.

[SirEmi]

The simplest sollution to the turn items is to make the turn items rare, 10 x or more harder to find then the other items... better then limiting or removing them I think 

[TheMerchant]

i think limit them, that way if people are dedicated and have spare time out of their day to play more than the average player, they gain an advantage over people. limit them to the max of a BH when you use the multiplier. its only fair, if you try harder/ work off harder, you gain a lil more.

[SirEmi]

Well I think that making them 10 x harder to find would limit them because there would be 10 x less items ingame but using the multiplier you get 10 x items for the mission => 10 x less turn items + 10 x more items from multiplier = same amount of turn items ingame...

I will probably ballance them further when the update is ready, maybe a little reduction in the turns given.

[Tzarkoth]

The problem will still remain to some extent Emi. If the Commander only chooses to use the *10 multiplier on +Turns items then you could still have infinite Turns, but obviously making them rarer would make this outcome harder, but still doable in theory. I'd suggest making +Turn items even rarer ... by a factor of 100 if you still wish to have them in the game at all.

[basill]

I myself feel that the multiplier is good for the segs but bad for the items just leave items as they are and give 1 item no matter what multiplier you use, if segs are more important to you you will do the multi if items are more important you won't, but I do think the turns used on it are a little to high because you can stay in one place a good while as you build up cap at 50 seems reasonable to me.

[TheMerchant]

by making them 10times or even 100 times rarer you make people have to use the multiplyer...  one way to pass a player is to play efficiently while they waste 9 xtra turns per mission. i say limit turn item to a max of 45 turns x 10=as much as a BH or dont do any thing to items at all, meaning you did one mission but 10 times so you get 1 item. that way while you get segs faster you miss out on items giving people another way to (legally) gain power a little faster than others.

[djjcuk]

Hey emi real respeckta to you dude 

[Amagnon]

My favoured solutions are (in order);

1. Remove all +turn items.
2. Give a random selection of items.
3. Give only one item per mission.
4. Make plus turns items extremely uncommon - like 1,000 times less in my opinion - to the point of non existance.

SOWARS in particular should be a game of skill - not, "who can spend longest at the keyboard".

[TheMerchant]

ahh, i think SO Wars should be a game of skill where spending the longest time at the keyboard helps


also will the fleet cost calculator be able to reduce the x10 segment reward? or will you automatically get 500segs

[Tzarkoth]

How we doing with this ?

Going to be implemented anytime soon ?

[Gunfighter Frank]

I would rather wait for a very good update than get a half baked one full of holes/

[Amagnon]

So asking how its coming along is tantamount to requesting a half assed update?

Anyhow - moving along - how is this update going? 

Recently there was a very good suggestion about selecting ships for missions and attacks - the suggestion was - IF you selected a ship, by putting a check mark in the box - then the tick stays there until you uncheck it.

This means once you select ships for something - you dont have to redo it all the time - which is a pain in the ass. 

Im no web designer - but that sounds really simple - any chance we could see it as part of this update?  Im sure it would be VERY welcome to all players.