Rules of this section

[Gunfighter Frank]

This section is for information. So in that spirit lets please Keep on topic.  there is the general section for disagreements of a personal nature there.  from now on I will remove any post that is not related to the thread.  Thank you very much for your help in Keeping this section for designs and startagy.

also note that to keep people from opening old topics if you have an addition to a sticky or need the topic put with an older topic here make a new topic and request that a mod put it in the approprate place.  thank you very much