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Title: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: SirEmi on March 13, 2010, 09:42:36 PM - randomized the PvP salvage and changed some percents:
-> on successful attack: -> attacker gets random between 20%-60% of defender destroyed fleets (40% average) -> defender gets random between 30%-70% of defender destroyed fleets (50% average) - the attacker will no longer see how much the defender salvaged Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Spayed on March 13, 2010, 10:23:40 PM cheers :D
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Cameron07 on March 13, 2010, 10:58:56 PM thats stupid.. you really didn't change anything.. you just made it so we can't see how much they get so we won't have the stats to pregnant dog at you anymore.. they still get waay to much.. no one should ever get 70% of what they lost... its stupid
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: SirEmi on March 14, 2010, 12:40:24 AM thats stupid.. you really didn't change anything.. you just made it so we can't see how much they get so we won't have the stats to pregnant dog at you anymore.. they still get waay to much.. no one should ever get 70% of what they lost... its stupid What the update did was almost double attacker gains and decrease defender salvage. Now please give it a try in game before calling it stupid. Thank you. Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Cameron07 on March 14, 2010, 03:15:14 AM The problem was never attacker gains and you lowered the max gained back from the defender by 10% big whoop
and aside from this update if you kami someone it doesn't count for a successful attack for you even though you kill a ton more creds worth of ships than you lose ( which counts as a successful attack in my book ) and the defender gets a ton back from that Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: davey boy on March 14, 2010, 08:35:58 AM well i attacked zynx and got 4bill worth of items so i think its cool:)
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: SirEmi on March 14, 2010, 03:20:51 PM if you kami someone it doesn't count for a successful attack for you even though you kill a ton more creds worth of ships than you lose ( which counts as a successful attack in my book ) and the defender gets a ton back from that Try using more expensive kami, that should bring a ton of salvage. Those that are almost swarmers, with some defense / HP too. Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: clouthour on March 14, 2010, 03:59:13 PM Try using more expensive kami, that should bring a ton of salvage. Those that are almost swarmers, with some defense / HP too. i know i got nothing to do with this update (cause i dont give a rat's ...) but having a kami with hp kinda defies the point of having a kami Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Comatose on March 14, 2010, 04:17:03 PM Try using more expensive kami, that should bring a ton of salvage. Those that are almost swarmers, with some defense / HP too. i know i got nothing to do with this update (cause i dont give a rat's ...) but having a kami with hp kinda defies the point of having a kami too true. And I hate this update aswell. Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Cameron07 on March 14, 2010, 08:02:03 PM who doesn't hate the update, and why has it changed so little...
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Spayed on March 15, 2010, 12:40:38 AM me..
the defender now gets less then before. thats what u wanted. just go kill them more.. Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Jan`go Vhett on March 15, 2010, 02:01:53 AM Geez how about you play for a few days with the update then worry about critiquing it.
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Spayed on March 15, 2010, 10:16:53 AM ok i made close to 40 bill today from pvp salvage so i think it was a good update :D
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: V on March 15, 2010, 11:51:21 AM how much did you lose to make that 40 bill?
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Spayed on March 16, 2010, 01:25:15 AM i did not lose a single ship..
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Lammalord on March 17, 2010, 06:04:33 AM if you kami someone it doesn't count for a successful attack for you even though you kill a ton more creds worth of ships than you lose ( which counts as a successful attack in my book ) and the defender gets a ton back from that Try using more expensive kami, that should bring a ton of salvage. Those that are almost swarmers, with some defense / HP too. problem with this is kamis need low power or else they are not effective and you will out-power your enemy. Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Spayed on March 17, 2010, 07:12:12 AM to change that you would have to change the whole power structure of ships. kami's are generally used on counters only.
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Lammalord on March 17, 2010, 03:50:27 PM to change that you would have to change the whole power structure of ships. kami's are generally used on counters only. I use them on attacks a lot too :p I've got some beastly kami's - so low power yet so high in attack that I've been able to kami a guys lead when he has 2 mission ships and 2 fleets of powerships above them. Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Spayed on March 18, 2010, 12:36:50 AM you sure it dont come under the section of tiny...
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Lammalord on March 18, 2010, 04:57:16 AM you sure it dont come under the section of tiny... yah cause they are cheep and die when i hit people :p Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Spayed on March 18, 2010, 06:03:54 AM haha u must share then :D
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Spayed on March 18, 2010, 07:19:22 AM Defender Ironics Anonymous (#29733) Hide
Engaged UnitsFleet Name # of Units Attack Defence Hitpoints Kam C V.3 ?????? 303.873 0 0 sorry buddy ?????? 303.873 0 0 sorry buddy ?????? 303.873 0 0 sorry buddy ?????? 303.873 0 0 sorry buddy ?????? 303.873 0 0 sorry buddy ?????? 303.873 0 0 sorry buddy ?????? 303.873 0 0 faker ?????? 0 0 0 faker ?????? 0 0 0 faker ?????? 0 0 0 Show Battle Details Assault result Kyle!!(#8446)'s 1 / 1 (100%) Tiny Stinger 1 are destroyed during battle. Kyle!!(#8446)'s 1 / 1 (100%) Bad Tiny Stinger 4 are destroyed during battle. Kyle!!(#8446)'s 1 / 1 (100%) KickButt Tiny Stinger 1 are destroyed during battle. Kyle!!(#8446)'s 1 / 1 (100%) Bad Tiny Stinger 1 are destroyed during battle. Kyle!!(#8446)'s 1 / 1 (100%) Tedbear Tiny Swarmer 4 are destroyed during battle. Kyle!!(#8446)'s 1 / 1 (100%) Swarm E are destroyed during battle. Kyle!!(#8446)'s 1 / 1 (100%) Swarm E are destroyed during battle. Ironics Anonymous(#29733)'s 8000000 Kam C V.3 are destroyed during battle. Ironics Anonymous(#29733)'s 8000000 sorry buddy are destroyed during battle. Ironics Anonymous(#29733)'s 8000000 sorry buddy are destroyed during battle. Ironics Anonymous(#29733)'s 4000000 sorry buddy are destroyed during battle. Ironics Anonymous(#29733)'s 4000000 sorry buddy are destroyed during battle. Ironics Anonymous(#29733)'s 4000000 sorry buddy are destroyed during battle. Ironics Anonymous(#29733)'s 4000000 sorry buddy are destroyed during battle. Ironics Anonymous(#29733)'s 1 faker are destroyed during battle. Ironics Anonymous(#29733)'s 1 faker are destroyed during battle. You attacked Ironics Anonymous(#29733)'s fleet and mothership from deep space. You destroyed Ironics Anonymous(#29733)'s 40000002 ships and lost 7/9 ships. Primary Objective: Destroy 10% of the enemy while losing less percent of the armada then the enemy. Your attack was successful and you gained 4 segments, while destroying 7 segments. Ironics Anonymous(#29733) lost more power than you during battle. (+67512 Exp) After the battle, your forces check the enemy wrecks for salvage... Something was found: You found 2.407 credits. Kyle!!(#8446)'s fleets salvage what they can from their wrecks... Kyle!!(#8446) found 3.831 credits. shouldnt i get more then that? Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Lammalord on March 18, 2010, 01:59:26 PM lol spayed, you got pwned by that guy...
and sharing? I don't think so :p I literally spent months with an allaince (active one lol) on sea-o testing kami and their styles... this ship is by far the best I've found so far... it gives about half the power of my older kamis and about 50% more attack... you can't quite get a single fleet, But I've taken out lead ships under powerships when they have 2 or more ships - well, with commander bonuses and a decent item... and I think thats pretty darn good for a kami :p Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Zan on March 18, 2010, 11:59:51 PM How was he pwned? he only lost little ships. he was saying that he should be getting more creds from salvage. he never lost anything from that attack.
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Lammalord on March 19, 2010, 01:09:13 AM How was he pwned? he only lost little ships. he was saying that he should be getting more creds from salvage. he never lost anything from that attack. Quote After the battle, your forces check the enemy wrecks for salvage... Something was found: You found 2.407 credits. look at this... those ships he attacked were kamis - pretty expensive, 40 million ships, lets go easy, 2k each (I guessed real low) = killing 80 billion, yet look Zan, he got 2.4k credits from them? lol? Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: V on March 19, 2010, 01:39:37 AM that guy = me.
its was abt 80 bill i think... cant rly remmeber. i was going to sell but wanted to see if i would get more back by having them killed. I didnt :( oh well :D Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Spayed on March 19, 2010, 01:53:52 AM i lost like 10k credits while killing 80 bill and didnt get anything for it?
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: SirEmi on March 20, 2010, 11:36:17 PM i lost like 10k credits while killing 80 bill and didnt get anything for it? You hit the 10% cap for the defender. You had to have to more ships in the battle, or it won't work. That's to prevent feeding, farming, transfers. http://forum.spaceo.net/index.php/topic,5775.msg57195.html#msg57195 "- defender with 5 bil fleet can have max salvage from attacker fleet of 0.5 bil (10% of his own fleets worth)" Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Spayed on March 21, 2010, 03:59:01 AM oh ok then, thats fair
Title: Re: SO Main: PvP salvage randomized Post by: Lammalord on March 22, 2010, 05:49:58 PM oh, nice catch emi - lol, know the abuse before it happens :)
spayed thats what you get for not getting kamied :p |