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Title: A Good Desighn?
Post by: Anilator111 on March 27, 2008, 11:17:58 PM
 :confused:
HP:252.817.214
DEF:3.326.944
ATT:243.910.248
ABS:54%
ACU:75%
PRICE:836.472.480
NAME:☼§Might◘♥Of♥◘God§


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on March 28, 2008, 07:02:36 PM
:confused:
HP:252.817.214
DEF:3.326.944
ATT:243.910.248
ABS:54%
ACU:75%
PRICE:836.472.480
NAME:☼§Might◘♥Of♥◘God§
Well at first it looked ok except for the defense which is useless unless your making a swarmer and that it had to few hps. Should have no less then 1 attack for every 2 hps But then I looked it up with my gold account and found out it was crap. You have a but load of components that are more then weight 8. 1 of your shields is 15k weight some of your computers a 50k weight and your power core is too small for it's power. Computers should be 8 or 9 weight shields should only be 8 and the same for weapon and specials on superships.

The powercore formula is in a my SpacO Useful Information sticky in this forum. There are also stickies for perfect shield/computers so use them instead yours which are a much higher weight.

Overall It's not that great but it could of been a lot worse. But with a few improvements it could be quite good.


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: Anilator111 on March 29, 2008, 12:03:57 AM
Well Its really My first Super Ship Thats any good at all but i am gonna make a new better one i will post it here and i really messed up on shields truth is that i just recently started making 1-10 credit desighns


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: Anilator111 on March 29, 2008, 01:35:44 AM
:confused:  This is My New More Powerful Ship If gold Look it up
ATT:238.750.931
DEF:5.589.600
HP:335.838.988
ABS:59%
ACU:88%
Def is worth it on this design
59% ABS makes for practily 3x as much hp
only about 1.3bil


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: waylain16 on March 29, 2008, 05:16:24 AM
whats the name?


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: Drackin on March 29, 2008, 06:38:42 AM
kenquinn,
i made a ship of the same hull size to compare since he made his with a lot of heavy components and with it being made the normal way its still extremely close. if you want to look it up its called  "clone1"


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: Anilator111 on March 29, 2008, 04:08:30 PM
 B-) Hey This one does not have heavy parts and the names Will Of Kanlaren


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on March 29, 2008, 04:10:58 PM
kenquinn,
i made a ship of the same hull size to compare since he made his with a lot of heavy components and with it being made the normal way its still extremely close. if you want to look it up its called  "clone1"
Well my ship NightShadow's Incitement of Immortally 9 v2 costs less and has more attack/hp overall then his and yours also has the same ACC and 1% less ASB then Anilator111's ship.
Space: 4.659.814
ATT: 156.339.989
HP: 380.729.365
Attack accuracy: 75%
Absorb Power: 58%

Edit: Now I can get in to the technical details of why adding weight to components to reduce energy costs is generally less effective then putting the same weight in to the powercore and using the extra energy in the component if you want me to.


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on March 29, 2008, 04:17:10 PM
B-) Hey This one does not have heavy parts and the names Will Of Kanlaren

That one is quite good


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: Anilator111 on March 29, 2008, 05:09:37 PM
Thanks Friend But now you can re check the first one its 100% better


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on March 29, 2008, 05:53:02 PM
Thanks Friend But now you can re check the first one its 100% better
Your getting better but you will want to make a test ship for finding better shield/computer combos.


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: Anilator111 on March 29, 2008, 08:27:10 PM
Thanks agan friend. i have never really make any good ships b4 but now i am


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: Anilator111 on March 30, 2008, 09:15:45 PM
HE HE HE I THINK I FINALY FOUND A TRUE SUPER SHIP :wow:
HP:3.756.572.855
DEF:34.935.000
ABS:62%
ATT:2.052.813.823
ACU:89%
COST:9.901.099.130
NAME:⌂╬POWER OF THE LORD╬⌂
Hows this one i think its perfect with 62% abs the hps practily trippl and acu makes damage more too
Cost seems to be effictive


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on March 31, 2008, 04:17:58 PM
HE HE HE I THINK I FINALY FOUND A TRUE SUPER SHIP :wow:
HP:3.756.572.855
DEF:34.935.000
ABS:62%
ATT:2.052.813.823
ACU:89%
COST:9.901.099.130
NAME:⌂╬POWER OF THE LORD╬⌂
Hows this one i think its perfect with 62% abs the hps practically tripled and acu makes damage more too
Cost seems to be effictive
Only 2.63 times the HP and otherwise it's pretty good. Keep working on your shield/computer combos you can always shave off energy that way


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: Drackin on March 31, 2008, 09:36:58 PM
kenquinn,
i made a ship of the same hull size to compare since he made his with a lot of heavy components and with it being made the normal way its still extremely close. if you want to look it up its called  "clone1"
Well my ship NightShadow's Incitement of Immortally 9 v2 costs less and has more attack/hp overall then his and yours also has the same ACC and 1% less ASB then Anilator111's ship.
Space: 4.659.814
ATT: 156.339.989
HP: 380.729.365
Attack accuracy: 75%
Absorb Power: 58%

Edit: Now I can get in to the technical details of why adding weight to components to reduce energy costs is generally less effective then putting the same weight in to the powercore and using the extra energy in the component if you want me to.

mine has a lot of defense. i made it to match his for comparison. if i were to take away the defense it would be more like nighty's ship


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 01, 2008, 06:55:39 PM
kenquinn,
i made a ship of the same hull size to compare since he made his with a lot of heavy components and with it being made the normal way its still extremely close. if you want to look it up its called  "clone1"
Well my ship NightShadow's Incitement of Immortally 9 v2 costs less and has more attack/hp overall then his and yours also has the same ACC and 1% less ASB then Anilator111's ship.
Space: 4.659.814
ATT: 156.339.989
HP: 380.729.365
Attack accuracy: 75%
Absorb Power: 58%

Edit: Now I can get in to the technical details of why adding weight to components to reduce energy costs is generally less effective then putting the same weight in to the powercore and using the extra energy in the component if you want me to.

mine has a lot of defense. i made it to match his for comparison. if i were to take away the defense it would be more like nighty's ship
Should of looked more carefully at your ship stats yours does have a effective Att/HP greater then mine if you were to convert the energy on defense in to ATT/HP

Now I did a quick test with using weight in a powercore and putting that weight in a special instead this is what I did:

I made a 500,000 weight Special that needs 900 Energy since when i tried adding energy 1 by 1 to reduce the cost it was reducing it by more then 3

It had 49,998,067 HP

Now if I were to make 499,992 weight powercore it would give (499,992 - 13)* 400 -79 = 199,991,521 energy
Now I put that in a 8 weight special it would give: 59,996,057 HP

You can see that putting space in a powercore is more cost effective but I will do more testing

Edited: Because I use a 5,000,000 weight Special instead of a 500,000 weight one


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: Drackin on April 02, 2008, 12:25:56 PM
hmm.. ive never seen that powercore formula. i use 499,992*400-5279=199,991,521


Title: Re: A Good Desighn?
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 02, 2008, 06:28:53 PM
hmm.. ive never seen that powercore formula. i use 499,992*400-5279=199,991,521
It's a modified version of that one. Don't know where I got it from though.