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Space Odyssey Info Terminal => Add-on projects in progress => Topic started by: SirEmi on April 17, 2006, 09:00:05 AM



Title: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: SirEmi on April 17, 2006, 09:00:05 AM
The name says it all, I've been testing with a 2D map of the Galaxy. I took 20+ hours this weekend to see if I can get a Galaxy generator up and running, and it was a complete success :)

The Galaxy map has 100 quadrants, and each quadrant has a couple of stars in it. The map works in every browser, will load fast on Dial Up, and uses only simple javascript.

When a new commander joins, he / she will be placed in a random quadrant. From here, the commander can explore the galaxy, view a detailed map of the quadrant, the map of the system, build facility in the system, mining outpost, space stations in the quadrant, gain territory, etc.

As this is in prototype phase, the basic tasks are:
- To be able to move in the galaxy, jumping from one star to the other will require turns. There will be no jump lines, if you have enough turns, you can jump all over the galaxy. (Basic navigation task complete)
- To build a basic mining outpost, hire some workers, than stay there and protect, or leave a couple of fleets to protect. credits production will be stored in the mining outpost stash, so you will need to come back later for it, or just wait.
- Each star has a certain type, Class M, Class G, Neutron, Black hole, etc. Some stars will influence others, like a black hole near... Each star has resource level, acording to how big it is, the surounding stars effects, special objects in the systems, facilities build, etc.

When this is done, it will need some testing, probably just building whitout attacking, or only attack the pirates in the systems, etc, until we figure out how it works.

This is just a screenshot of the Galaxy map, quadrant and system maps will zoom in on this:
http://www.spaceo.net/images/gal.jpg


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on April 17, 2006, 11:12:07 AM
I don't know, this is starting to head a bit too much towards the game Pardus now. I like SO just how it is now, no moving your ship or anything like that. But then again, with this, you could have an alliance base and sit in a quadrant an ambush people. I don't know, sounds neat and all, but Pardus has something just like this and it wasn't that great.....


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: FTP on April 17, 2006, 12:44:50 PM
I do not think we should head to much off the starting idear of this game. I like SO as it is now, to much extra's would make it to hard to get in as newbie. And extra's not always contributing positive to a game.

Greetz FTP


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: SirEmi on April 17, 2006, 12:59:50 PM
This will not change the gameplay as it is, it will only provide more attraction.
You could still win whitout ever opening the galaxy map.
When you get bored of missions, exploring the galaxy could bring a little fun...


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: ars68 on April 17, 2006, 09:16:15 PM
hmmm...  this could be interesting.  and luffy, this game will NEVER be like pardus.  pardus has something this game never used, and that is pre-set units.  as far as I know, the 1 main, distinguishing feature setting this game apart from a surprisingly large majority of the others is the fact you don't just go out and buy a "deathstar" or something, you have to design it yourself to. 
main differences:
pardus ~ Space Odyssey (if I am getting this right)
pre-set units ~ everything self designed
1 ship per person ~ unlimited fleet numbers
limited movement throughout the galaxy ~ point, click, go, your there.  not much else, other then figuring out where to go
extensive building dependencies spread out ~ stand alone structures on single planets

Sir Emi, I think this is going to be great, especially if you keep it from having to move 4 little squares at a time throughout a galaxy of millions of squares. 


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Borg! on April 18, 2006, 12:58:21 AM
Ooo sounds familier to what i was thinking earlyer XD


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: nukeman1993 on April 18, 2006, 09:24:27 PM
Sounds very interesting, I would like to see how it works out in gameplay. It will either work very well or it will bomb horribly. But it looks like the map is very large. I have a question, Can you only attack the people in your quadrant or would you still be able to attack anyone? Also, the mining outpost is it seperate from your secert base? If it isn't then will you be able to check on it as you move around. Like a new page that you will see all your current mining outposts. I really hope it turns out well!


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: ars68 on April 18, 2006, 11:10:54 PM
hmm...  such a huge project, I defeintely hope you will give a test time, or a different server or something.  honestly, I don't really see how this will not completely turn around the way the game works.

but I was thinking, maybe this could be a "side game" type thing to get items, which then you can trade to other people for them to use as well, like those who wish not to play the "side game"  anyway, whatever.

oh, luffy, I remembered one last thing, if sir emi keeps on updating and stuff, it may very well start looking like one thing, that isn't bad at all.  just make sure you get the good parts of the game, and replace the bad parts with how another game makes it interesting.  like I said, Pardus, that game (as I am playing it currently to see how it looks) is mostly about buildings and trading and such, while fighting is important, you can tell it is almost an after thought.  just through "turns" at it see what happens.  Space Odyssey has somewhat limited trading, but a much better fighting system.  I for one hope Sir Emi can pull this off, as it may not be very good by itself, but be a GREAT launching point for other upgrades as well (like the alliance base you mentioned)


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on April 19, 2006, 06:48:45 AM
I know it won't be exactly like pardus, but it's similar, though jumping from end to end of the galaxy is totally original. But like I said, sounds interesting, and if we can get it to be a side part to he game like you said, it'll be great most likely, but if it is required, well, things aren't gonna be easy. And yes, I wonder too how this could not greatly change the game.

Sir Emi, any idea on how long till council?


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Borg! on April 19, 2006, 07:22:25 PM
will you be letting council test soon to see how it works or are you the only one testing at the momeny?


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on April 20, 2006, 01:42:21 PM
well, right now borg, the council has no power, because that update hasn't been implemented yet.


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: mrtimbr549 on April 20, 2006, 04:22:36 PM
We're the United Nations


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on April 20, 2006, 06:34:00 PM
That's a bad analogy mrtimbr, cause the UN trys to stop wars and get everyone to get rid of their arms mostly (yea right, no one is doing that). We're more like, the government of the US, The council is the executive and judicial branch, sir emi is president and legislative branch.


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Borg! on April 20, 2006, 10:24:21 PM
we arnt the judicial branch thats you and charle


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on April 21, 2006, 04:06:18 AM
Not here on the forum, but in the game. Charlemagne and I are here to get rid of all those useless threads and put threads in their proper places. We're more like janitors with really shiny badges :D


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Gunfighter Frank on April 21, 2006, 09:23:30 AM
if you need a test person I would be glad to help test this thing. I am sure some of the top commaders and veteran players would not mind helping you test this on another site to ensure playablity and its possible effects on game play and game balance.


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on April 21, 2006, 01:21:41 PM
I wouldn't mind either. Just contact me if you want some test help.


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: nukeman1993 on April 21, 2006, 07:06:49 PM
I wouldn't mind helping out.


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: ars68 on April 21, 2006, 10:57:14 PM
yes, I would not mind helping out to, give me a good chance to get practice at playing something but only to look for problems and such, and critically think aboutt hem instead of blasting at the person who did it so they can just fix it and go on.  sounds fun  :))


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Lammalord on April 24, 2006, 06:07:15 PM
i cant wait... keep missions the same and everything and the ablity to attack people(reamber you warp in attack and warp out... why else would i take turns?) but other than that exploring the universe and making bases dose sound sort of fun something to do like a subgame... has nothing to do with the game now, but you could still explore i cant wait tell its done


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Lammalord on April 24, 2006, 06:10:53 PM
and all them dots look almost like there galaxys lol like thats the entire universe or something haha


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: nukeman1993 on April 24, 2006, 09:32:03 PM
yea i really like the minig outpost idea. But like i said earlier in the post you need to be able to check on them. Also that map will be extremely awesome when we get a lot more players. Because like alliances could war over several galaxies and just continue to battle over several. That would be awesome. I CAN'T WAIT Tto see how this works out in the game. Hopefully well!


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on April 25, 2006, 07:51:43 AM
nukeman, we HAVE a lot of players, at least 2k that are active and not alts of other players.


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: ars68 on April 25, 2006, 05:05:41 PM
ok, I bring this up in hopes of fixing it at the same time:

in the story (you let this fall and it really does make an impact on people thinking about joining) it says that almost quite literally this whole galaxy is gone, except for stray stars and such.

my proposal:

further the story to say that in such and such way, an alien (remember those encounters?) race comes and after being defeated we learn how to warp to other galaxies, wrapping things up here and moving on to other galaxies to continue the war effort.

thus, in the center if this "map" there should be a "starting" galaxy with little in it that all new players start out at, and can serve as the central point and or training grounds for new people for a while.


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Gunfighter Frank on April 25, 2006, 08:33:41 PM
now ars that is one great twist to this that we have learned how to go to other galaxies.  sweet


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on April 25, 2006, 10:38:46 PM
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN!!!! ARS68 HAS DONE IT AGAIN!!!!

A stupendious idea ars. (Still sounds a lot like Pardus, but if we're going to risk jumping shark, we should jump all the way)


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Lammalord on April 29, 2006, 02:28:32 AM
yes but the attacks should still be the same as before and all the stuff like that.. the galaxy is just a helper to build bases, and do other side stuff when you run out of missions.. that help you out in various ways...

why would you change attacks for all an attack is, that " you hyperspace in strick quickly then leave" thefore no matter were you are in the galaxy it shouldnt effect your ablity to attack people even if there at the oppeset side

i cant wait hope this is fun... (still want 5 turns for missions back!)


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: ars68 on April 29, 2006, 10:56:15 PM
ya, as far as I know, Emi said he would not make the map necessary to do any attacks or anything.  but this WOULD be a great way to use items :)


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on May 01, 2006, 03:21:30 PM
Didn't he say it would be up this past weekend? (I could have sworn he did....hmm...)


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: ars68 on May 02, 2006, 09:50:17 PM
hey e, if it isn't already to late for suggestions about this, I have one:

make it like this:

each "colony" has so much space.  this space is about the same as ship space, except that it is on a colony and on a ship.

so the space will be divided 2 ways:

you have space to devote to resources and buildings

you have space to build systems on, like, a powercore system to power buildings and guns.

now, the thing is this though, and yes, this IS going off of what the tinyman was, because I 100% believe it is PERFECT for this.

you can have a colony that costs very little, or you can go off and, say, make 10 space power 10000 buildings, but then the powercore will cost ~so much~ so even a "small" colony can be huge in it's pwoer and everything, provided you have enough credits to throw at it.


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on May 04, 2006, 03:03:08 PM
Ars, you're 2 for 2 man! I love this idea!


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Revan on June 17, 2006, 01:23:02 PM
Yeah that sounds great I can't wait for it to be added!


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Revan on September 16, 2006, 08:43:31 PM
Is there any new on this yet?


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on September 18, 2006, 01:26:52 PM
It's already been added, there is just additions being made to it now.


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Lammalord on September 19, 2006, 06:43:20 PM
ya lol, were have you been :p


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on September 19, 2006, 06:51:35 PM
He's been in Guam, didn't you know? (I actually have no idea, I was trying to be polite, but should have been rude, knowing the drama lamma was going to come and get him anyway. We shall morn him.)


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Lammalord on September 19, 2006, 07:16:16 PM
dont insult guam, they still have internet there, i know i lived there for almost 3 years!


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Seither on September 19, 2006, 07:24:07 PM
They do? *looks blank* never would have guessed it. Ok, fine, scratch Guam, he was in Antartica, don't ya know?

*8 posts*


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Lammalord on October 21, 2006, 09:36:06 PM
hay emi, i was msged a good point that this topic states "add-on projects in progress" and this is already added on, mabey you can move, or delete this topic so more people wont get confused..


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: TheMerchant on October 22, 2006, 01:38:38 AM
well this is about the galaxy so ill ask here too.....

will we ever be able to sell our galaxy items on the market?


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Gunfighter Frank on October 22, 2006, 09:32:35 AM
that is suppose to be in work.  it was suppose to be this weekend, but the weekend is not quit over.


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: TheMerchant on October 22, 2006, 03:09:21 PM
so where would i got  to sell them?


Title: Re: Galaxy Map, Quadrant Map, System Map, Space Odyssey 2D
Post by: Remfer on October 22, 2006, 10:28:03 PM
i don't think anyone knows yet, but it should be in the news at the top or if not sir emi will probably post something somewhere to tell us how to work it