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Title: Market stealing money
Post by: Soppe on July 26, 2006, 08:01:02 AM
i got Emphatic Trade Relations on 1%, meaning i should get all the stuff for 1% less then what the price says, instead i gotta pay 1% more... its going the wrong way =S


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: SirEmi on July 26, 2006, 03:25:19 PM
Empatic trade realtions is supposed to lower the minimum bid you can place on CHOAM offers, so if you have 5% and the min bid is 1000, you can place 950, while others will have to place 1000.

So if it works the other way, you have to place 1050 instead, I will check that and see, unless you are refering to something else...


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Soppe on July 26, 2006, 03:39:15 PM
oh so it does the calculation b4 one actually offers? then the problem is that it does the calculation but it doesnt take it into cosideration when u actually offer.


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: ars68 on July 26, 2006, 04:08:08 PM
hehehe...  the market stealing from the person... that's an interesting twist :)  maybe you should make a complaint to the not yet existant council...  :14:


hmm...  planet laxative...


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Lammalord on July 27, 2006, 04:42:09 PM
i declare errr ummm a bounty thats it!

sence its JUST soppe, i would have to say ill put a 1million credit bounty on CHOAM anyone who can return the money will get the reward, now start looking!


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Soppe on July 27, 2006, 04:51:51 PM
what u mean by its JUST me?? ill ss it if u wanna  :4:


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: ars68 on July 27, 2006, 10:31:06 PM
1 mil?  wow, your really goinf overboard there, lamma, using council credits we don't even have yet :)  lol  I mean, come on, it'd take someone an entire, like, 2 seconds to get that much.  LOL

*searches under the lamma and the kid in soppe's pic*
O.O
*puts a warning sign out front*


hmmm...  planet nobody...  anybody? somebody? bodybody? bodysome? bodybod?


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Soppe on July 27, 2006, 10:57:01 PM
1 mill aint a biggy, unless u do market 14-16 hours a day. each 5 mins, 4 or 5 offers pops up, lets say i offer on 3, and lose 3 mill each 5 min. thats 18 mill an hour. if i do market for 14 hours, ill lose 252 mill a day. plus whatever cp ammount i use to upgrade the skill =)


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: ars68 on July 27, 2006, 11:08:14 PM
wait a sec... that's not a real character bonus... *takes mask off of button* that says % to give to... someone else. soppe, looks you've been FOO'd!  hehehe... 

ok, anyway, ya, it may not be a big deal now, but you gifure later when you are trading for billions, and on top of that over the course of many months, that 1 mil can REALLY rack up.  and even then, doing billions, that would be 10+ mil each time. 


hmmm... planet arakkis...  na, to worm infested


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Soppe on July 27, 2006, 11:10:09 PM
not only that, but if the skill worked as it should, i wouldve added more points into it, making me buy the stuff even cheaper =)


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Soppe on August 12, 2006, 09:30:20 AM
this is bullshit. i lose f**k**g 5-20 mill each time i outbid something back, and with all the outbiders that goes around having fun, that turns out to be a nice ammount of money after a day >.<


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Gunfighter Frank on August 12, 2006, 12:53:27 PM
CHOAM does the calculations before you even see the market.  I have been playing market since its inception. When you add that % the min bid you see is already reduced in price to fit your CPs.  If you would have notice the actuall price you bid on 1 million items is less as you add %s to CPs.  IF you doubt what I say find an item then have someone that does not play the market look and see what the min bid is for that person. you will find that the price you see is X% less than for the person with 0 CPs


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Soppe on August 12, 2006, 07:47:26 PM
if u got a good that for a person costs 100 mill, i should pay only 99 right? well, sometimes that doesnt happen, i still gotta pay 100 mill (though it first says 99 mill on my screen, but 100 mill when i pay). it aint always it happens, but it seems to be happening when i outbid some1.


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Gunfighter Frank on August 13, 2006, 01:50:59 AM
when you bid it goes up automaticly


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Soppe on August 13, 2006, 02:12:33 AM
so the empathic trade relationship skill doesnt count when u outbid? weird cause choam still does the calculations before i offer. ill ss it next time an outbidding war starts so ull see excactly what i mean with the whole thing =)


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Gunfighter Frank on August 19, 2006, 06:18:22 PM
no it does not because you are not bidding against Choam you are bidding against another person


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Soppe on August 20, 2006, 12:18:16 PM
Emphatic Trade Relations

CHOAM sell offers have a lower price for you
   
     3    % 

but its still a choam sell offer. it aint the guy im outbidding whos suddenly selling it =)


CHOAM     Mechanical Parts (disputed)     38766   50.535   1.187.912.766     1.959.039.810   0 m

You bid 1224652336 credits on 38766 Mechanical Parts

i should pay 3% less then full price, so as u can see, chaom does the calculation b4 i offer but then it changes it when i offer:   1224652336/1187912766=1.03=3%
ill check what happens if i got the exact ammount of money while putting the rest in stash next time i find something to outbid.


okei i tried it.

CHOAM     Consumer Electronics (disputed)     74487   83.052   3.751.214.220     6.186.294.324   5 m
You have 3.751.214.220 credits.
And when i offer:You did not have enough credits to bid on some auctions...

dont come here telling me everything is as it should be =P


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Gunfighter Frank on August 20, 2006, 06:03:59 PM
find a 1 million quanty item  before you up your CP
look at the price of the item
then after you up your CP go look at the same item and you will see that the price has droped by that %
and when you out bid a person you no longer get choams deal because the peron that has already placed the order has bid more than what would have to begin with and do the same with that that was fixed a couple rounds ago because I an another of my people found that we could get the price to below min if we just kept bidding against eachother with our huge amount of empathetic trade


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: Soppe on August 20, 2006, 06:27:28 PM
ah yes i get ur point... its just silly stupid market not showing the right price -.-


Title: Re: Market stealing money
Post by: charmuska on August 21, 2006, 01:14:11 AM
Yeah, I had found out that it works (for me, anyway).  It's really easy to see if you have an alt with no points in the skill.