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Title: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Saturn 7 on May 30, 2010, 06:55:02 AM I know its a recently well debated topic, but I've been thinking how it can be removed or reduced from the game.
Most of the feeding occurs within alliances, so my solution would be that no attacks even planetary or station can be made on a member of the same or truced alliance. To stop people getting around this and dropping alliances..... for a period of, say 5 days after dropping from an alliance, players still wont be able to attack members of his/her's ex alliance. Although this wont stop the issue it will greatly hinder it. The taking of a planet and giving it to a fellow alliance member isn't a major issue, or even building planets as the receipicant still needs to spend to place colonists on it and research planetary levels. Sorry to start this debate up again, it comes out of my frustrations of seeing my ranking suffer because of this issue. Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Fester on May 30, 2010, 10:59:00 AM I can only echo Saturns comments.
Bizarrely feeding or being fed seems to be supported by the majority of players. Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Saturn 7 on May 30, 2010, 11:51:40 AM DJ J-Bomb(#11554) raided Bells Blue(#89237)'s secret base and destroyed 3300001 ships of fleet power 60.152.200.427.934
This just somes up everything, what IS the point of me playing this game anymore! In case some of you dont know..... these are alliance team mates. Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Comatose on May 30, 2010, 12:06:48 PM DJ J-Bomb(#11554) raided Bells Blue(#89237)'s secret base and destroyed 3300001 ships of fleet power 60.152.200.427.934 This just somes up everything, what IS the point of me playing this game anymore! In case some of you dont know..... these are alliance team mates. he hit him for 72T fp just now. f**k.. Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Saturn 7 on May 30, 2010, 12:19:06 PM DJ J-Bomb(#11554) raided Bells Blue(#89237)'s secret base and destroyed 3300001 ships of fleet power 60.152.200.427.934
DJ J-Bomb(#11554) raided Bells Blue(#89237)'s secret base and destroyed 3300000 ships of fleet power 60.152.182.200.000 DJ J-Bomb(#11554) raided Bells Blue(#89237)'s secret base and destroyed 84330007 ships of fleet power 60.699.182.220.014 DJ J-Bomb(#11554) raided Bells Blue(#89237)'s secret base and destroyed 3300000 ships of fleet power 60.152.182.200.000 DJ J-Bomb(#11554) raided Bells Blue(#89237)'s secret base and destroyed 4000000 ships of fleet power 72.911.736.000.000 Thats the attacks I've witnessed. I'm not necessarily puting all the blame apon you JB since its being going on amongst others throughout this round, but to see this shotly after I start the topic totally justifies my issues.. Emi, you have to look into this whole issue in the game more, it's just plain unfair. In fact it even puts your donations at risk as they dont need to donate anymore, just get fed. Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Cameron07 on May 30, 2010, 01:38:43 PM Yeah its a crap part of the game right now and instead of rules being changed for the good on this situation it seems they have changed to allow more of this unfairness
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Jan`go Vhett on May 30, 2010, 03:52:38 PM This idea seem to be a good one to me.
Shouldn't even be too hard to put into the game. Not attacking alliance members would be easiest by having an alliance have a permanent truce with itself. Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Fester on May 30, 2010, 05:19:59 PM Makes sense, 1 question though, would leaving the alliance break the truce?
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Saturn 7 on May 30, 2010, 05:22:24 PM Thats the more difficult part for Emi to implement, I would like the truce to still be enforced for a time period even if you leave an alliance.
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Grondavor on May 30, 2010, 11:44:39 PM I think this would fix a majority of feeding in the game, however not all feeding occurs between alliance mates.. it happened last round a few times
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Fester on May 31, 2010, 06:05:45 AM Curious,
I find the absence of responses for some of the more vocal participants on these forums to be quite revealing. Guess it sort of highlights who is involved in this issue really. :21: Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Borg! on May 31, 2010, 06:08:22 AM hahahaha.
I do agree this would help stop feeding, aswell as buddy nebs. so I'm all for it. Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: FTP on May 31, 2010, 07:46:12 AM Curious, I find the absence of responses for some of the more vocal participants on these forums to be quite revealing. Guess it sort of highlights who is involved in this issue really. :21: Or by now they gave up hope it will ever be fixed ;) Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Arkan on May 31, 2010, 11:49:40 AM Or the fact some of us are from across the pond and you were posting before any of us woke up lol. I think excessive feeding is the real problem. I see nothing wrong with helping an alliance member if they got hit hard or stumbled a bit but people show no restraint and abuse it to the point I'd rather there be no raids at all. For example, DJ's being fed as stated before. What's my problem with this? He hasn't donated anywhere near what Wes has and yet he's being fed into a better position while also using his new credits to attack people lower in power than he is with tinies. I have nothing against Jbomb personally, but I dislike that style of play and see it as the true issue at hand. If someones gonna have the cash to be a not a very nice person with tinies, they d**n well better have earned the wealth themselves.
And for what it's worth, don't buy into the hype. I , personally, have only let people raid me 4 times the entire round and they barely got much of anything out of it bc of the previous changes made. Obviously the things emi has implemented to help the problem are working as the raid news posted earlier in this thread shows they've resorted to throwing out ships to try to boost the profits for the raider. Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Grondavor on May 31, 2010, 01:24:12 PM The updates made it better but still have not fixed it. just because the raid giver has to put out ships, does not fix the fact that the raid reciever is getting a ton od credits that they did not earn. In the words of Sir Emi, he thought it would stop free raids because the raid giver would not want to lose all of the money it takes to give a free raid, but obviously that is not right, as we have seen at least 5 free raids since the update came out
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Cameron07 on May 31, 2010, 02:38:33 PM well obviously we need to put a bit of changes in the game to fix this.. but there needs to be a rule against credit feeding too
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Jonathan16 on May 31, 2010, 03:10:13 PM as we all no it dont matter who you raid unless it not a alt account read the rules.
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The team of Space Odyssey warns that extensive periods of time sitting in front of a computer could be unhealthy. Game updates. Space Odyssey reserves the right to change any aspect of the game without prior warning. If you do not agree with the rules, please close this window and do not enter the game! Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Saturn 7 on May 31, 2010, 03:38:15 PM Thats why it needs to be changed. It's blatently unfair to many players but within the rules.
Dont you in the slightest feel any sympathy for those people that dont have big helpers and just have to watch people pass by them without doing hardly any work? Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Jonathan16 on May 31, 2010, 03:52:36 PM sympathy?
it a game rofl Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Arkan on May 31, 2010, 04:13:17 PM So you'd have no problem with me feeding wes so he does nothing but tiny you every single day until he runs out of turns?
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Fester on May 31, 2010, 04:13:43 PM So much for
Playing fairly and Honestly Space Odyssey upholds high standards of moral behavior. Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Jonathan16 on May 31, 2010, 04:18:58 PM em why you say that Fester because i killed you 3 mains? ( i think thats why )
humm i killed them of a counter Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Pirate55 on May 31, 2010, 04:28:06 PM yea i agree with sat i dont like the feeding but the raids update messes up real raiding that isnt feeding..
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Saturn 7 on May 31, 2010, 04:31:59 PM In a game you have to be fair to your opponants whether you like them or not. Its called respect.
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Arkan on May 31, 2010, 04:35:23 PM He never did reply to my question about being okay with me feeding someone so they could do to him what hes doing to others. :))
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Fester on May 31, 2010, 04:42:04 PM em why you say that Fester because i killed you 3 mains? ( i think thats why ) humm i killed them of a counter Please Jonathan, act your age not your shoe size! If I had a problem with your successful counter would I have asked you (politely) for a copy of the combat report. I'm still waiting for your answer. Now with all due respect, either deal with the issue raised in this topic or take your guilty conscience elsewhere. Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Jonathan16 on May 31, 2010, 04:49:45 PM i dont have a guilty conscience
were you get that from? Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Comatose on May 31, 2010, 05:15:42 PM CHILDREN! STOP! JESUS CHRIST!
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Fester on May 31, 2010, 05:19:06 PM :))
Thanks teacher, I'll behave Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Comatose on May 31, 2010, 05:21:16 PM :)) Thanks teacher, I'll behave You better. For *** sakes, jonathan, stop acting like a 2 year old. As for everyone else, please disregard his posts and carry on with the topic. HELPFUL posts would be nice. Also, Sir Emi, do you intend to intervene in any current feeding incidents? Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: SirEmi on May 31, 2010, 05:44:25 PM http://forum.spaceo.net/index.php/topic,6115.msg60431.html#msg60431 I have looked at the logs of the battles and the amount lost was way greater then the gains. The defender lost power ships as well as 3% of his secret base stash each time. This was more like an attack with losses then feeding. Please see the above update and note: "You are allowed to help others gain ranks by raiding the secret base. Beware of the cost though." Nevertheless, I am monitoring how it goes and may do some balancing updates. Thank you. Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Jonathan16 on May 31, 2010, 06:08:15 PM cheers for sorting this out sir emi.
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Comatose on May 31, 2010, 07:14:57 PM Sorry sir e but this doesn't do jack poop.
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Cameron07 on May 31, 2010, 08:32:38 PM agreed.... thats what we are saying.. we know the new rule no sense in posting a link to it.. were pretty much saying the new rule sucks and was pretty much a step in the wrong direction... raid anyone ya want is not a good update
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Grondavor on May 31, 2010, 09:25:49 PM Honestly let's just get rid of raiding all together. It just causes too many problems
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Fester on June 01, 2010, 05:54:43 AM Never in the fields of open debate has a point been so widely missed!
Title: Re: Solution to stop credit feeding Post by: Pirate55 on June 01, 2010, 12:03:52 PM agreed.... thats what we are saying.. we know the new rule no sense in posting a link to it.. were pretty much saying the new rule sucks and was pretty much a step in the wrong direction... raid anyone ya want is not a good update i agree.. the point of raiding is to hurt someone and also get some extra money out of it. now its about the same as killing a few ships.. i like saturn's idea of fixing the feeding. i think it could work pretty well. |