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Title: Covert ops attack Post by: Jonathan16 on May 11, 2010, 06:54:59 PM Useing ( covert ops attack ) i see you cant attack there items i think there should be a way of doing that.
:21: Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on May 11, 2010, 08:05:32 PM Why would you want to do that all you might get is some ship buff items the rest get sold pretty fast
Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: V on May 11, 2010, 08:25:49 PM not always, I tend to leave mine in there until i upgrade... sometimes longer... the system is not very user friendly... so i use it as little as possible.
Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Spayed on May 12, 2010, 08:20:16 AM when attacked via a board attack if you dont have sufficient warehouse space and you lose segments then you will also lose a percentage of all items.
Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Jonathan16 on May 12, 2010, 10:12:05 AM spayed tell me when you have every got a lot of items of someone on one counter? yes when you attack someone you get items of them, only if you kill some of there fleet bit it does depend on the power and meany of fleet you get in items.
you get resource, no workers, CP, credits ( i only every got resource). so i think this is unfair. but attacking someone back you may loss ships so will will not get any resource back and it a wast of a counter. - ok someone powerdown in the ranks from top ten and attack a few people BUT cant be asked OR forgets to use he/she items i think the counter should be able to get a % of all there items this means, the counter useing covert ops attack will be worth doing. or when useing Covert ops attack ( Gather Intelligence Counter, no other cost ) you should be able to see what items they have aswell. so you no how much in credits, workers ect they have. :) Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Zan on May 12, 2010, 01:32:13 PM Hmm.. That was very hard to understand. :21:
Your point is to do covert ops while the ones who attack you are doing aliens right? Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Jonathan16 on May 12, 2010, 03:30:25 PM Hmm.. That was very hard to understand. :21: Your point is to do covert ops while the ones who attack you are doing aliens right? it very easy to understand what i said huh who said anythink about doing aliens??? Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: clouthour on May 12, 2010, 03:39:05 PM so u want an attack like raid items? that will kinda suck u know, since ppl tend to use there items and if they do keep'em then they wont after that so dont see any point in it
Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Saturn 7 on May 12, 2010, 03:45:48 PM Some players that cant return to their planet locations, have alot of segs sitting as special items. What I think Jonathan means is you get a chance to capture some of these. Turn items are another that can be stored if a player is near to the turn cap.
Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: TNTTony on May 12, 2010, 09:58:56 PM Hmm.. That was very hard to understand. :21: Your point is to do covert ops while the ones who attack you are doing aliens right? it very easy to understand what i said huh who said anythink about doing aliens??? Jonathan, it is quite difficult to understand you sometimes. Please do not take offence to this but rather take it as constructive criticism so you will be better able to explain things in the future. I just need to clarify what Kyle said. If you attack someone and they lose segments and they don't have enough segment in warehouses then they would lose a large portion of the items. You don't gain any items but your opponents lose a lot. Overall I like your idea. However, I think this will mainly be used towards the end of the round when people tend to get tons and tons of items and most likely only be used for people within the top 20. Personally, it's not an idea that is on the list of priorities but it is a good idea nonetheless. Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Zan on May 13, 2010, 12:08:13 AM Hmm.. That was very hard to understand. :21: Your point is to do covert ops while the ones who attack you are doing aliens right? it very easy to understand what i said huh who said anythink about doing aliens??? Jonathan, it is quite difficult to understand you sometimes. Please do not take offence to this but rather take it as constructive criticism so you will be better able to explain things in the future. I just need to clarify what Kyle said. If you attack someone and they lose segments and they don't have enough segment in warehouses then they would lose a large portion of the items. You don't gain any items but your opponents lose a lot. Overall I like your idea. However, I think this will mainly be used towards the end of the round when people tend to get tons and tons of items and most likely only be used for people within the top 20. Personally, it's not an idea that is on the list of priorities but it is a good idea nonetheless. Told ya it was hard and its about aliens too cause you can only get few items from encrypts. L:) Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Jonathan16 on May 13, 2010, 10:11:48 AM NO! how long you been playing?
if the player u attack if they have items or not u still get items of them BUT only resoures Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Fester on May 13, 2010, 11:10:12 AM OK if something like this was implemented I would ensure I always have a huge number of Alpha Captains and (I believe) Sensitive Commandos on hand just for you Jonathan ;)
Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: clouthour on May 13, 2010, 01:18:50 PM NO! how long you been playing? if the player u attack if they have items or not u still get items of them BUT only resoures i dont know about main but i m pretty sure that on wars its not only resources Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: V on May 13, 2010, 04:43:31 PM It appears, that Jonathan thinks emis PvP updates caused you to steal resource items from the defender, but that is no correct, Jonathan. Those resource items come from oblivion, the great hand that causes Space O to work properly.
Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Jonathan16 on May 13, 2010, 05:45:35 PM It appears, that Jonathan thinks emis PvP updates caused you to steal resource items from the defender, but that is no correct, Jonathan. Those resource items come from oblivion, the great hand that causes Space O to work properly. I have tested this and i had 0 items and the defender still got items. Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Zan on May 14, 2010, 11:13:23 AM It appears, that Jonathan thinks emis PvP updates caused you to steal resource items from the defender, but that is no correct, Jonathan. Those resource items come from oblivion, the great hand that causes Space O to work properly. I have tested this and i had 0 items and the defender still got items. yeah? So whats your point? Just like mannaman said it comes from oblivion. Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on May 14, 2010, 11:59:59 AM Jonathan16,
You have gotten items from PvP for months and after the latest PvP update you get more. These items are spawned based on the value of ships you kill and I think your Expert Salvager %. Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Comatose on May 14, 2010, 02:27:34 PM It appears, that Jonathan thinks emis PvP updates caused you to steal resource items from the defender, but that is no correct, Jonathan. Those resource items come from oblivion, the great hand that causes Space O to work properly. I have tested this and i had 0 items and the defender still got items. Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Zan on May 14, 2010, 03:36:13 PM It appears, that Jonathan thinks emis PvP updates caused you to steal resource items from the defender, but that is no correct, Jonathan. Those resource items come from oblivion, the great hand that causes Space O to work properly. I have tested this and i had 0 items and the defender still got items. yeah, he didnt understand that i think :21: Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on May 14, 2010, 07:30:21 PM Just to be clear you do not always get items. You can get a % of the ships killed in items/credits.
Quote -> Both ways PvP salvage - attacker will salvage 20% of defender losses (items & cr), defender will salvage 60% of own losses (cr), 20% lost - on success, attacker will salvage 50% of own losses (cr), defender will salvage 0% of attacker losses (cr), 50% lost - on fail, attacker will salvage 25% of own losses (cr), defender will salvage 10% of attacker losses (cr), 65% lost - uses maxed resupply bonus from the two parties - defender with 5 bil fleet can have max salvage from attacker fleet of 0.5 bil (10% of his own fleets worth) - attacker gets 20% so (max 20% of his own fleets worth) The 3rd option could of happened Jonathan16 or it could be that you don't always get items along with credits on an attack. I think that may of happened to me. - on fail, attacker will salvage 25% of own losses (cr), defender will salvage 10% of attacker losses (cr), 65% lost - This could be what happened Title: Re: Covert ops attack Post by: Jonathan16 on May 14, 2010, 10:20:51 PM ok that could of been it ken.
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