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so ignorant.. dumbest update ever.. tired of all the noobs whining because they get attacked this is a war game, quit trying to make the main server a pve server.. a pox on you for ever doing this.. so d**n stupid...

agreed,

btw marines count for power aswell... it boost's power on mains up alot!! its ridiculous..

It does not boost it by a lot lets take a 1.15 Bill cost super ship

It has a base power of 18,275,128

With full marines now it has (18,275,128 + ((6,989,722 *100)/1000)) = 698,972 extra power

That is a 4% power increase due to the update. If you have a marine component ship then it would be a larger percentage due to them marine component decreasing the ships overall power. But it does not increase normal superships power a lot.

So next time do the math before you post Spayed

Kyle is talking about transferring all your money into Marines into reserved ships so you can power down. When you have tons of quad creds then it can increase power significantly so you can't power down.

You guys are morons you keep yelling at everyone for whining about the larger players but all i see is you whining about not being able to unfairly attack people so STFU!!

no im whining about not being able 2 attack anybody because the only way i can attack is by reserving...

we are the only ones that pvp with any success.. without us main is pve...

u have been able 2 power down and attack for years... why change it now just cause a bunch of noobs that no nothing of the game have a cry cause they get killed..

toughen the f**k up...

bullshit if you want to attack people don't shoot up ahead of everyone to begin with try hanging back with everyone else for awhile.
Either quit whining about there being no PvP or quit worrying about making the top ten and getting your prize money.

dude, i have been hanging back!!

i used 73k turns... i have hardly played since xmas... i would have 2 not play at all to have anyone even close 2 me..

its not like we powered down further then the top 20 anyway.. and people in the top 20 should be hit..

and ken 4% is a f**k**g lot.. epecially when it shouldnt be there at all..  whiney bitches should f**k off the the pve server..

It does not increase your overall power the credit power is converted in to marine power and no 4% is not a a lot

its 4% that nobody wants or needs.. its not needed and all it does it take out more types of attacks... cause 4% is alot when attacking..

i have to agree with spayed and cam on this one.  Neither reserved ships and marines should not count towards power

sry but that last sentence doesn't make sense. i understand it but it still doesn't make sense.

and i agree too
 4% of 1 Quint is 40 Quad. if that doesn't seem like a lot then u have no preception of proportion

The problem was caused by the planets, before the planets you couldn't just get rid of workers or segments, so your base power kept you from attacking lower rank players. With the planets you can get rid of both workers and segments.... and as Emi pointed out he loves planets to much to get rid of them this was the only solution.

oh haah.  i meant to say "Neither reserved ships nor marines should count towards power"...

its saturday give me a break

I have a sense of proportion I also have a sense of relative size. 40 Quadrillion is a large number however compared to 1 Quint its not a big number.

Its all relative to your ships cost which increase over time. By the time you can buy a quint ship 40 quad power is nothing due to it only being 4% of one ships total power.

Please give a specific example of how this update screws with PvP so far all I have seen is complaints that it increase ships power. If you want it changed just screaming OMG OP is not going to help. You need examples of how the update affects the game and how the effects are detrimental to balanced PvP.

what they are saying is that when you have way more power than everybody else the only way they can attack anybody is by powering down to hit them.  And the way they do that is by reserving ships.  So if reserved ships count as power, they can not attack anyone

lets take the current rankings as an example
Ranking     A     T     User     Mothership     Ships     B     N     C     Status     Mothership Power
1          L Kyle!! (#8446)    2324    31          D       9.223.372.036.854.775.808
2          Who am I (#89074)    2214011    4          D       1.370.296.638.508.652

thats just the top 2 are u seriously telling me that a 4% increase in power won't have an effect on kyle powering down and hitting who am i?

No one way to do that is by reserving ships the other is selling them.

This is not an ideal solution but does anyone have a better idea to fix the issue with Reserving ships and PvP? Sure this stops top players from powering down to hit people it also stop them from powering back up so they cant be hit. Which many have done before preventing proper retaliation.

If you want PvP in the top 10 then don't all be in one Alliance

@clouthour I was writing the above when you made your post so here is a reply to yours

Yes the reserve ships having power does stop him from powering down to hit him. The 4% power increase on ships is balance out by the power decrease you get from buying the marines. Until you take in to account the power decrease that occurs by buying them. By default its at a 1 to 1 power ratio with marine discounts it does change.

Now in the case of your attack Kyle has so much more cash from being almost 10X bigger then him it would not of been a fair fight. Right now anyone in the top 10 can attack almost anyone else assuming the have very few segments. Which they almost always have due to planets. This allows them to kill anyone with less resources then they do. In the case of Kyle he could kill Who am I with impunity as he could power back up after the attack with ships that Who am I has not chance of killing.

That is a Major issue with the PvP system in SpaceO high ranked players can kill anyone not ranked near them. Especially now since the top 10 has massive jumps between players power levels.

Practically every online game like SpaceO has a system to prevent something like this but SpaceO does not.

I wont be replying again today too tired

yeah but the only way for kyle to attack anyone is to power down so either he sits at the top and does nothing or loses a heck of a lot selling his ships to power down.

Its a dumb update... im tired of noobs whining and get the game changed however they want, planet attack restrictions, now can't power down, and vets or players that have been around long enough to know the game have supported several suggestions and still nothing changed

its stupid, we get a few ************ noobs that want everything 2 be easyer for them...

and we very rarely power down and attack people outside the top 30... and certainly not noobs... if reserved ships count as power then it just makes attacking so much harder... u wont be able to kami.. wont be able to board..