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few people have maxed.. more to come.. no word from emi... its a problem

Yeah I already mailed him but he seems to ignore it.

Try resending sometimes it takes two messages to get him to notice it.

Or label it Wars Maxed Power Bug  :12: that will get him to read it mu ha ha ha ha ha ha

Hey ken is it you who mailed emi about this stuff too? Did he replied to your message?

I've tried mailing him about it and got no response.

Ill do it forgot to been busy..... Ill do it now.....

Taking my own version of a Crash Course in Java which is more of jump in so deep that you have to figure out CSC 20x courses on your own to get out.

Edit: Just sent the message....

nah the message got to him.. he's either not getting on or ignoring

I just got a reply will not post until I make sure Emi is okay with me posting it but in short the spaceo team is thinking about what to do. There is a bit more in the message but im waiting on word from sir emi.

Spaceo team? Who else is on the team besides from emi? :21:

His words not mine..... Well he said we are discussing it but we implies team.....

bahahaha i think he's making stuff up

Yes I lie all the time about important poop.....

wasnt talking about you

Sure you weren't :p Sir Emi does not lie however is English is no good. So perhaps he used we by mistake.

He always uses we when speaking about the developers/coders/programmers whatever you want to call it.

I think what he really means by "we" is his other side  :))

Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder)

Here is the full message:

Hello,

Yes, I know about that. We are discussing what to do on the Wars server, there may be some reset and compensation for the maxed players.

Thank you,

Sir Emi

ya... i mailed him twice on every account... no reply at all. im about ready to quit. compensation would be nice. for the people that legitimately maxed out

you cant max out without it being legitimate :D

can u compensate me?? ill think about maxing out :D

lol maxing out on wars is easy. Step one know a guy who has maxed out :p Step two ask him for a max price ship :p Step 3 sell the maxed price ship :p Step 4 Profit :12:

compensation for maxed players? What about for other players who will have their stuff thrown out too?

they can quit crying :D

best thing 2 do now is reset the whole thing. with all the feeding going on it should be reset, those who maxed out without feeding should be rewarded..

Ok, this is what I think should be done:

Once a SO WARS player maxes (not by feeding from another maxed or close to max, but by himself), he will receive a Gold upgrade / extension of 1 year (with Gold credits bonus).

In exchange for the Gold upgrade / extension and bonus, the commander will give up the following:

- fleets, secret base stash & workers, mothership credits (except Gold bonus), items, encryption level, credits in mining facilities / credits on planets, experience / commander level.

The commander will get to keep:

- mothership modules, research levels, space stations, mining stations, planets with colonists, mothership size.


I will check the logs of every maxed player on a regular basis to see that there is no transfer / or feeding involved. If a commander maxes out with the help of another maxed commander, then the above will apply, but he will not get the Gold upgrade / extension.

The changes above will take place in one week from now, 18 June 2009. Further changes to the above may occur until then.

Note: People that feed from the maxed players and attack others will be fined.

You are free to comment, suggest changes.

Thank you.

would it be possible to get $20 affiliate credit instead of gold bonus?

keep planets and colonists? reset them too. just put the planet back at 100 bil colonists or watever it starts at when u create a new one.

hmm sounds pretty crap to me... many people spent waaay more than 20$ on wars and took a long time to max.. also by keeping their bonuses they will shortly max again

Reset all but the tech perhaps?


EDIT

What about the people cam and krat attacked while maxed? Credit refunds?

yea, the negative fp glitch that happens when maxed lets the maxed people attack low powers, destroying weeks of gameplay for new players without a chance of retaliation..

(personal experience)


bad bad cameron


-TehNoobPwner

I would say this is a good temporary fix but what we really need is something like what was talked about here (http://forum.spaceo.net/index.php/topic,5191.0.html).

yeah you just reset a few people and loads of people are gonna quit.. and i think the people that maxed need more than just a petty gold account...

Increase Max Power
Increase Max Workers/Credits/Colonists
Increase Max Comp/Ship Size
Increase Max Energy for Components
Add New Items for Encryprts and Aliens Rabbits Encrypt level is like 18k and he gets 1 bill items while getting at least 20 to 60x that in credits/workers.....

Remove credits/ships gain for the Max Price Ship Glitch....

Would that make you guys happy?

Tinies would need to go and something to help keep new players in the same range as older players.
Like average of tech, workers, creds, and encrypt.
We need something like this or this is all going to happen again.
New players are gonna join and go oh well looks like I can 't catch up and then quit.
Then you'll have older players going well this is just boring now so I am done and pretty soon dead server again.

limit credit production and worker growth bonus's to 100%



im gonna put this out there... a server wide reset of credits, workers, planets, segs, ships, and mothership modules.

older players would still have their techs which we spent a lot of time on. new players would have a fighting chance.

And we all start with 5k turns, cp and 100bil creds perhaps?

umm if we reset the whole wars server, its pretty much just going to become SO Main.

the whole point of wars is no resets and PVP.


i think we should delete all inactives who havent played for 3 months, and advertise on SO Main for Wars.

maybe send messages on Main to the veterans and invite them to Wars Alliances.

that way new good active players would come.

hmmmm and maybe Sir Emi should cut the galaxy size down. for the number of players vs number of places to hide, its very easy to stay hidden for most of your career. im going to say maybe cut the universe in half or make it 1/4 the size it is now.

your bloody retarded. most people who want to play wars do, advertising wont help. cutting the galaxy in half only makes noobs like you get hit more. deleting inactives gets rid of newbie income. Mkay?

As far as I am concerned we need a reset so as to implement something that would allow new players to keep up.
Please try to be nicer Truth.
Cutting the galaxy down could be good but then we would need a limit on station and mining facility tech.
As for advertising on Main what about new players who join Main and know nothing about Wars?
Also those newbies who raid inactives for creds wind up getting too big of ship that they generally wind up getting killed by a more experienced player then give up cause they can't figure out how to get a good income.

exactly what jan said. this reset would be to implement something else. sorry kspoosh, but you havent played wars server since ive been playing, so i really dont think your arguemnets have any weight here

As for advertising on SO Main.... whats the point in moving main vets to wars, that will just start to kill off main. Anyway maybe many of the main vets stay on main as its their prefered game style.
A good experienced main player may struggle on wars, same way some wars players dont excel on main.
I have tried Wars about 6 months ago but found that there was not much hope of ever achieving anything as everyone was so much further ahead.
If you end up with some sort of reset, I can see some players on Main trying out wars for the experience, but not full time and investing towards another gold account on there.

by advertising on main i meant to send an ingame message to all players that are already playing, and new ones that join.

people can play both main and wars.

i do it

btw ive been playing wars on and off for like 1.5 years.

im not that much of a noob jessiedog

usually things like vacations or school interfere, i lost my spot in rankings to raids and attacks and such, come back and rebuild

i think Sir emi should add AI or NPC commanders that actively attack players near their power. say randomly generate fleets and such for random powers, and let em loose on the galaxy. that could be fun. you could counter them for segs or just to get fleet experience.

Wow, that idea IS horrible. Did you even think about it?

nope not really  :)) but it seemed fun at the time. methinks i am started to be hated.

hmmmm if we reset everyone, it should be total, like back to 0 everything. that way we all get even start.

maybe even out commander exp tho.

get rid of all modules, research, commander bonuses, and of course fleets.

please get rid of all the inactives...they wont be income anymore because of reset, so there is no point in them existing. say 3 months inactive gets you deleted, and your number reopened to public

how bout no to deleting. dont know about others but im in the military and my tours are 3 months +. like to come back and still have something

spoosh i never said u were a noob, i said your arguements having to do with the wars server have no relevance. whats ur acct name there? never seen kspoosh or tehnoobpwner or watever play. i still stand by my statement.

i also still say full server reset and everyone keeps technology and commander bonuses

No I don't think that would be a good idea that would give people a huge advantage over everyone else to start with all anyone needs to keep is the skill they have learned from playing so long.

i spent a crap load of time on my tech. if that gets reset im quitting

So did I but if tech doesn't get reset everyone that is at the top will just go right back to where they are and nothing will change making the entire reset pointless all tech needs reset.

I agree with jessie.. I have no problem with everything but tech being reset.. If tech is reset than I am quitting as well..

If tech doesn't get reset then everyone needs to get the average tech from something like the top 90.
Not just keeping what they have cause then its just going to go the same way it has now.
You gotta think how long it took you to get that tech then realize that is how longer longer it will take new players to catch where you are now while your still putting it ahead.

are you guys even thinking about the server or are you all so stuck on not wanting to lose all your work that you don't care if the entire wars server is dieing and keeping tech is just going to ensure that it dies again.
Think about if you just joined and then learned that although your in the same power level as everyone they all have 1.5+ years of tech would you keep playing?

you know what qualopec? you're right. i quit anyway.

Thats why I thought the server would be such a nuts idea from the moment it was started. This would happen eventually. I'm sticking to PvE. And its almost dead already. Except for 3-4 active players. The rest are on maybe once a few days. Main is done for, its over. Only vets can seem to play, they get top ten, no one else. Emi doesn't wanna teach anyone how to play good for any server. At all. No good startup designs. No reseting servers. He doesn't wanna do jack. This game is dead. I give a few more rounds on PvE and me 'n' Magicat will be all thats left. By then WARS will be destroyed, picked apart by former friends argueing. You guys have to learn that its a f**k**g game. Its not real life. Learn to make friends before fixing this jackassed server. As in, stop argueing amongst each other and make up. Only then does the server stand a chance. I've said my part, and unless someone listens to this, unless Emi reads all the complaints going down, all the good ideas and inspirations his players are coming up with, I'm done. I've been around my WARS server friends so long now that they feel like family to me. I don't know how anyone else feels, but I don't want a game to ruin this. If its tearing you apart, just leave this game altogether, before your enemies and not friends.

~See you all 'round, hope you heed the words of mine posted here, and of others posted 'round the forum. Keep your head up, your wits about you, and friends all around. Goodbye.~

does PvE gets reset?

i might join in on the fun

PvE works the same as main but with no attacks. Feel free to join, I'm sure Ted will let you into Preservation Of Faith, he and I will teach you how to play there. I'm pretty sure your too used to WARS to know how to play on PvE/Main. At this point, its way more fun than WARS, for the few people it has, its still more active and friendly than WARS seems to be. Mail Faded on there if you want to chat to him, he can help.

meh wars is dead as far as i know.

my idea:

have a total reset. and i mean everything including tech and modules. then make everything harder to get ie:
takes more missions to lvl up encryp lvl
bios, ac, sn give a lower bonus (note i didn't include bhs as well they are in low supply anyways)
ships give more power
attack:hp ratio is controlled so it's always between 1:0 - 10:1
etc, etc

I think we need to fix what killed it in the first place alts, tinies, and people not being able to catch up.
For alts same IP not being able to hit same IP and a no longer letting alts be legal should work.
For tinies like I already suggested remove marine components.
and as for people not being able to keep up remove anyone that has not been active for two months or so and when you join you get the average tech, CP, Modules, segs, and encryption level of the server.

Alts were ever a problem on WARS?  :confused:

Yes alts were a problem especially for lower player when the alts are getting creds from their main or they are getting hit by mains for attacking an alt.

THE CHAOS asked me to post this since he doesn't have a forum account it his idea for how to fix it:

once you max, you can either stay maxed, or enter a kind of prestiege mode, where you lose everything, but ya get a special military ranking with new unlocks and technology.

June 19 and nothing new on Wars :(

The maxed players on SO Wars will be reset today. A message will inform them of the reset.

After that, the Galaxy on SO Wars will be re-seeded with asteroid resources.

Other updates will follow up to balance / make it harder to max.