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Title: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 19, 2009, 09:58:35 PM
Name says it all the ability to dismantle a plant to get segs back from it of course it wound not be at 100% efficiency and you could not get any from a planet that has not been extended however this would make it much more profitable to capture another players plant as you could use it to expand your own.


Title: Re: Diamante Planet for Segs
Post by: TNTTony on April 19, 2009, 10:00:15 PM
Yes absolutely. It would make planet capture more profitable and exciting.


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Jan`go Vhett on April 19, 2009, 11:46:37 PM
Yeah sounds very fun  :wow:


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Spayed on April 20, 2009, 12:19:47 AM
good idea :D, you could also ruin somebodys game by giving them no chance to take it back and by making yours harder 2 capture :D


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 20, 2009, 12:21:24 AM
ya it needs some balance like removing segs costing you something would not be fair if you could remove all segs put in to it for nothing


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Spayed on April 20, 2009, 12:22:43 AM
hmm, how bout it costs you the same or double what it cost the person 2 put them in there in the first place??


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Cameron07 on April 20, 2009, 12:23:43 AM
i say you can dismantle for 50% of segs put into it.. you get 10% of the colonists back into workers and it costs you just as much as it cost them to put the segs into the planet


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Spayed on April 20, 2009, 12:25:49 AM
hmm i like the getting the colonists back idea, but after you captured it there may not be many colonists left on it


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 20, 2009, 12:25:57 AM
i say you can dismantle for 50% of segs put into it.. you get 10% of the colonists back into workers and it costs you just as much as it cost them to put the segs into the planet
It should cost more credit wise to remove then put in as it needs to be balance to stop the top 10 players from just taking all the newbies planets for chump change.


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Spayed on April 20, 2009, 12:32:57 AM
i say you can dismantle for 50% of segs put into it.. you get 10% of the colonists back into workers and it costs you just as much as it cost them to put the segs into the planet
It should cost more credit wise to remove then put in as it needs to be balance to stop the top 10 players from just taking all the newbies planets for chump change.

but that sounds so fun ken :D


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 20, 2009, 12:39:32 AM
i say you can dismantle for 50% of segs put into it.. you get 10% of the colonists back into workers and it costs you just as much as it cost them to put the segs into the planet
It should cost more credit wise to remove then put in as it needs to be balance to stop the top 10 players from just taking all the newbies planets for chump change.

but that sounds so fun ken :D
Anything unbalanced is fun thats why its unbalanced...


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Spayed on April 20, 2009, 12:40:43 AM
yea but it would have taken emi ages 2 figure that out :D, think of all the fun :D


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 20, 2009, 12:42:13 AM
yea but it would have taken emi ages 2 figure that out :D, think of all the fun :D
Ya but id rather him spend time on more important things then balancing my ideas...


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: TNTTony on April 20, 2009, 12:44:32 AM
Make it cost turns to dismantle...say 50 turns
Then everytime you dismantle, there is a chance to get a certain amount of segs eg. between 10% to 20%
You can only do it...say...3 times a day and there is a maximum limit of 50% segs that can be dismantled.

In this way, newbie planet should be harm free from top players


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Spayed on April 20, 2009, 12:45:51 AM
no point dismantiling them if ya cant get many segs outa it


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 20, 2009, 12:47:00 AM
no point dismantiling them if ya cant get many segs outa it
Um 10 to 20% of the total number of segs in it is a lot... Thats 30 to 50% of the total number a segs put in to a planet a day.


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Spayed on April 20, 2009, 12:48:30 AM
hehe not alot of a noobs planet :D

for a top 10 planet maybe :D


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 20, 2009, 12:49:11 AM
hehe not alot of a noobs planet :D

for a top 10 planet maybe :D
Ya thats the point do discourage wiping out noobs planets for segs...

If new people cant make planets it kind of discourages them from playing the game as well and making planets semi-pointless after a few weeks in to a round.


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Spayed on April 20, 2009, 12:51:11 AM
hehe again you ruin the fun :D


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 20, 2009, 12:52:55 AM
hehe again you ruin the fun :D
No im stopping people from posting in the forums if this update is added screaming IMBA about top 10 players killing there newbie planets.


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Spayed on April 20, 2009, 12:55:27 AM
haha ok you have a point :D, limiting the amount you can take a day is good, but i think you should be able to take it all eventually


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 20, 2009, 01:01:09 AM
haha ok you have a point :D, limiting the amount you can take a day is good, but i think you should be able to take it all eventually
True you cant take 100% of the segs from the planet unless you spend a ungodly amount of time at it due to diminishing returns from each grab.

On day one you take 50% of them or 500 segs there are now 500 left
On day two you take 37% of the segs or 0.37 * 500 = 185 segment leaving 315 left
etc etc etc

I agree this solution is sub optimal but sub optimal is better then broken.


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Spayed on April 20, 2009, 05:21:56 AM
i guess, maybe there could be a minimum amount you can get or something??


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Techno on April 20, 2009, 05:28:12 AM
Well remember there is a "bottom" amount aka the amount you get when you first build a planet (100b colonist) so it shouldn't never go under that from the segment dismantling though combat is a different story :P

I do like the ideas of 50% return so the one taking is getting something but not the same amount of the one who spent making the planet yes profitable to the point but not able to have alts "abuse" the situation to a exterme point. Though it requires credits and segments and increase the population Capacity by 10m colonist so how about using the 50% thing... Decrease Population by 50% of the total segments dismantled it requires double the credits of the orginal cost (meaning the 50m credits increase is now by 10m Capacity now takes 20m to take 5m cap) using that figure out how many segs removed with a maxium of 1/3 the planet per 48 hours, this allows the defender to retake the planet before the planet becomes "dead" and allows the last owner to salvage some of what he/she spent and allows the attacker to make something off the planet. Plus big players don't need to take more segs per hit after all they probably didn't lose much (other then turns) to start with so what they get would be no matter useful to a point....

(Edited section)Also if anything is wrong please correct me and if my idea makes no sense or isn't possible please post as well...
Edit: Added Another Section at bottom


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 20, 2009, 02:49:39 PM
Its 5 bill colonist on main Techno


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: SirEmi on April 20, 2009, 03:18:54 PM
Very interesting idea :)

I'll see if we can do something like this.

Maybe you could ravage the planet and extract the segments from it, but it would take time and would decrease planet capacity etc.


Thank you.


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 20, 2009, 04:22:52 PM
Please for all that is good in spaceo post how you plan to implement it before you add it as an update. Let us tell you what we think of it. You dont have to listen to us but it would be nice as we may see issue you dont.


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: TNTTony on April 20, 2009, 07:48:23 PM
Very interesting idea :)

I'll see if we can do something like this.

Maybe you could ravage the planet and extract the segments from it, but it would take time and would decrease planet capacity etc.


Thank you.

Cool!


Title: Re: Dismantle Planet for Segs
Post by: Spayed on April 22, 2009, 08:00:05 AM
Please for all that is good in spaceo post how you plan to implement it before you add it as an update. Let us tell you what we think of it. You dont have to listen to us but it would be nice as we may see issue you dont.

agreeed please tell us :D, we dont need unbalanced things that could destroy a round