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Title: unknown aliens
Post by: davey boy on February 25, 2008, 03:15:32 PM
emi i no you said you were not going to make them as profitable this rd but come on its gone totally the other way :))
Invader davey boy (#31)

Engaged Units
Fleet Name # of Units Attack Defence Hitpoints
Snareblade MK 16 1 6.594.616.224+ 0+ 10.194.588.906
Necroscions Of Alcyone Beta MK 23 1 5.121.972.741+ 0+ 10.612.246.666
Bashhunger MK 30 1 3.938.357.567+ 0+ 8.475.321.224
Kressiancr MK 19 1 2.927.250.481+ 0+ 4.232.132.042
Drakken 10 bil 1 2.715.023.655+ 0+ 4.945.142.198



Defender Unidentified Fleet (#)


Engaged Units
Fleet Name # of Units Attack Defence Hitpoints
Alien Harvester #4 1 2.121 0 0+ 0+
Alien Harvester #4 2 6.760 1.059.128+ 939+ 36.819
Alien Harvester #4 3 37.041 180.500+ 0+ 286.000
Alien Harvester #4 4 59.067 167.200+ 211+ 52.800
Alien Harvester #4 5 73.231 196.387+ 0+ 10.095
Alien Harvester #4 6 82.018 172.639+ 0+ 10.095
Alien Harvester #4 7 73.192 196.387+ 0+ 10.095


Our long range scanners report 200,943,392 enemy fleet power!



Engage




Assault Note


davey boy(#31)'s Snareblade MK 16 fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 1 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Snareblade MK 16 did 2.121 damage to fleet Alien Harvester #4 1.
davey boy(#31)'s Snareblade MK 16 fleet destroyed 2.121 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 1 fleet.
The fleet Alien Harvester #4 1 did 0 damage to fleet Snareblade MK 16.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 1 attack failed.

davey boy(#31)'s Necroscions Of Alcyone Beta MK 23 fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 2 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Necroscions Of Alcyone Beta MK 23 did 248.896.440 damage to fleet Alien Harvester #4 2.
davey boy(#31)'s Necroscions Of Alcyone Beta MK 23 fleet destroyed 6.760 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 2 fleet.
The fleet Alien Harvester #4 2 did 91.644.228 damage to fleet Necroscions Of Alcyone Beta MK 23.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 2 attack failed.

davey boy(#31)'s Bashhunger MK 30 fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 3 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Bashhunger MK 30 did 3.296.405.283 damage to fleet Alien Harvester #4 3.
davey boy(#31)'s Bashhunger MK 30 fleet destroyed 11.525 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 3 fleet.
The fleet Alien Harvester #4 3 did 200.577.015 damage to fleet Bashhunger MK 30.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 3 attack failed.

davey boy(#31)'s Kressiancr MK 19 fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 4 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Kressiancr MK 19 did 2.466.361.843 damage to fleet Alien Harvester #4 4.
davey boy(#31)'s Kressiancr MK 19 fleet destroyed 46.711 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 4 fleet.
The fleet Alien Harvester #4 4 did 592.560.144 damage to fleet Kressiancr MK 19.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 4 attack failed.

davey boy(#31)'s Drakken 10 bil fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 5 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Drakken 10 bil did 739.266.945 damage to fleet Alien Harvester #4 5.
davey boy(#31)'s Drakken 10 bil fleet destroyed 73.231 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 5 fleet.
The fleet Alien Harvester #4 5 did 401.247.098 damage to fleet Drakken 10 bil.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 5 attack failed.


Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 6 fleet attacks davey boy(#31)'s Snareblade MK 16 fleet.
The fleet Alien Harvester #4 6 did 396.466.154 damage to fleet Snareblade MK 16.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 6 attack failed.
The fleet Snareblade MK 16 did 827.971.710 damage to fleet Alien Harvester #4 6.
davey boy(#31)'s Snareblade MK 16 fleet destroyed 82.018 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 6 fleet.

Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 7 fleet attacks davey boy(#31)'s Snareblade MK 16 fleet.
The fleet Alien Harvester #4 7 did 362.223.724 damage to fleet Snareblade MK 16.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Harvester #4 7 attack failed.
The fleet Snareblade MK 16 did 0 damage to fleet Alien Harvester #4 7.
davey boy(#31)'s Snareblade MK 16 attack failed.
 


Assault result


Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 2121 Alien Harvester #4 1 are destroyed during battle.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 6760 Alien Harvester #4 2 are destroyed during battle.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 11525 Alien Harvester #4 3 are destroyed during battle.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 46711 Alien Harvester #4 4 are destroyed during battle.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 73231 Alien Harvester #4 5 are destroyed during battle.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 82018 Alien Harvester #4 6 are destroyed during battle.
You attacked Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet and mothership from deep space.
You destroyed Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 222366 ships and lost 0/5 ships.
You lost 0/1.265.258.784 fleet power (0%), while the enemy lost 146.472.212/200.943.392 fleet power (73%)

Primary Objective: Destroy 40% of the enemy while losing less percent of the armada then the enemy.


Incoming transmision!
You are clear to use any salvage anything you may find useful.
Your salvage crews found the following items trough the alien wreckage:
Alien parts and alloy worth 1.841.195 credits.
5 x Silver Hack Card
1 x Gold Hack Card

Unidentified Fleet(#) lost more power than you during battle.

(+4227 Exp)
 few of these and ill have enough for a wheel barrow :))


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: ninjastrike40 on February 25, 2008, 04:58:50 PM
similar thing happened to me but thought it was concidence


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: lostedchylde on February 25, 2008, 05:31:22 PM
ive found the rewards from aliens to be right in line with the power level so far. you can't expect to get big rewards for missions that are less then 10% - 20% of your power. i do alot of these and find they add up pretty good. of course that reward you got seems a bit low, is that all the bigger reward you get? or is it an anomoly?


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: davey boy on February 25, 2008, 06:47:55 PM
well you dont get much over 12mill


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: drakken on February 25, 2008, 07:07:50 PM
Defender Unidentified Fleet (#)


Engaged Units
Fleet Name    # of Units    Attack    Defence    Hitpoints
Alien Gatherer #6 1    196    9.347.537+    306.444+    4.075.358
Alien Gatherer #6 2    286    3.216.279+    981+    7.466.201
Alien Gatherer #6 3    2.701    0    0+    0+
Alien Gatherer #6 4    2.944    4.796.514+    163+    6.368
Alien Gatherer #6 5    7.778    146.202+    23.307+    117.948
Alien Gatherer #6 6    4.104    576.872+    4.344+    1.333.779

if you noticed third fleet has no attack def or hp.... :confused:


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: blakranger51 on February 25, 2008, 08:53:10 PM
Need to specify server here. PVE or MAIN?


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: SirEmi on February 25, 2008, 08:54:54 PM
Need to specify server here. PVE or MAIN?

yes please do that, I think losted is on Main and Davey on pve....  :wounded1:


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: davey boy on February 25, 2008, 09:46:53 PM
yeah sorry pve for me


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: lostedchylde on February 25, 2008, 09:57:22 PM
mostly main for me, i haven't done very many aliens on pve yet.


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: davey boy on February 26, 2008, 02:09:46 PM
Invader STRIDER (#31)

Engaged Units
Fleet Name # of Units Attack Defence Hitpoints
Drakken 34 bil 1 9.890.730.963+ 0+ 17.797.286.964
Snareblade MK 16 1 7.586.287.836+ 0+ 10.194.588.906
Necroscions Of Alcyone Beta MK 23 1 5.923.672.822+ 0+ 10.612.246.666
Bashhunger MK 30 1 3.938.357.567+ 0+ 8.475.321.224
Kressiancr MK 19 1 3.367.438.523+ 0+ 4.232.132.042



Defender Unidentified Fleet (#)


Engaged Units
Fleet Name # of Units Attack Defence Hitpoints
Alien Terminator #5 1 17 122.080.981+ 911.840+ 97.947.066
Alien Terminator #5 2 62 59.545.792+ 415.288+ 6.523.302
Alien Terminator #5 3 15.292 855.172+ 8.931+ 1.177.330
Alien Terminator #5 4 20.864 218.439+ 10.404+ 446.248
Alien Terminator #5 5 7.889 3.685.388+ 99.785+ 1.254.474


Our long range scanners report 458,575,930 enemy fleet power!



Engage




Assault Note


STRIDER(#31)'s Drakken 34 bil fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 1 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Drakken 34 bil did 1.665.100.122 damage to fleet Alien Terminator #5 1.
STRIDER(#31)'s Drakken 34 bil fleet destroyed 17 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 1 fleet.
The fleet Alien Terminator #5 1 did 328.117.053 damage to fleet Drakken 34 bil.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 1 attack failed.

STRIDER(#31)'s Snareblade MK 16 fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 2 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Snareblade MK 16 did 404.444.724 damage to fleet Alien Terminator #5 2.
STRIDER(#31)'s Snareblade MK 16 fleet destroyed 62 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 2 fleet.
The fleet Alien Terminator #5 2 did 516.857.475 damage to fleet Snareblade MK 16.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 2 attack failed.

STRIDER(#31)'s Necroscions Of Alcyone Beta MK 23 fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 3 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Necroscions Of Alcyone Beta MK 23 did 2.757.792.926 damage to fleet Alien Terminator #5 3.
STRIDER(#31)'s Necroscions Of Alcyone Beta MK 23 fleet destroyed 2.342 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 3 fleet.
The fleet Alien Terminator #5 3 did 1.380.961.848 damage to fleet Necroscions Of Alcyone Beta MK 23.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 3 attack failed.

STRIDER(#31)'s Bashhunger MK 30 fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 4 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Bashhunger MK 30 did 1.925.594.378 damage to fleet Alien Terminator #5 4.
STRIDER(#31)'s Bashhunger MK 30 fleet destroyed 4.315 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 4 fleet.
The fleet Alien Terminator #5 4 did 314.468.279 damage to fleet Bashhunger MK 30.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 4 attack failed.

STRIDER(#31)'s Kressiancr MK 19 fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 5 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Kressiancr MK 19 did 2.152.569.965 damage to fleet Alien Terminator #5 5.
STRIDER(#31)'s Kressiancr MK 19 fleet destroyed 1.715 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 5 fleet.
The fleet Alien Terminator #5 5 did 3.924.993.501 damage to fleet Kressiancr MK 19.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Alien Terminator #5 5 attack failed.

 


Assault result


Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 17 Alien Terminator #5 1 are destroyed during battle.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 62 Alien Terminator #5 2 are destroyed during battle.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 2342 Alien Terminator #5 3 are destroyed during battle.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 4315 Alien Terminator #5 4 are destroyed during battle.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 1715 Alien Terminator #5 5 are destroyed during battle.
You attacked Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet and mothership from deep space.
You destroyed Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 8451 ships and lost 0/5 ships.
You lost 0/1.656.888.235 fleet power (0%), while the enemy lost 238.349.182/458.575.930 fleet power (52%)

Primary Objective: Destroy 50% of the enemy while losing less percent of the armada then the enemy.


Incoming transmision!
You are clear to use any salvage anything you may find useful.
Your salvage crews found the following items trough the alien wreckage:
Alien parts and alloy worth 18.843.034 credits.
1 x Tiny Ice Crate
1 x Beta Inertial Coupling

Unidentified Fleet(#) lost more power than you during battle.

(+6878 Exp)

 
another example emi a 458,575,930 mill unknown and i get 18mill thats crazy for the ships you have to face what do you think? :21:


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: lostedchylde on February 26, 2008, 05:14:30 PM
maybe thier like mothership missions, once you grow past a certain point they just don pay much in comparison?


                                               :spider2:


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: blakranger51 on February 26, 2008, 05:32:47 PM
Well these guys have never payed much for me this round on PvE, really not much point trying to find them

Except I see other people occasionally on the news making 2 bil on a single one, but I have yet to make more than 250mil on one of the probe aliens, and I'm the biggest on the PvE server...


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: drakken on February 26, 2008, 07:24:55 PM
and im right behind blak at #2, the rewards suck...on pve server btw...i think i set a new record for the aliens ive killed today with 24 mil creds profit.no big deal, i dont have to search for them or attack them when/if i find them..just sucks the ones i do find, biggest fp ive encountered is 300 mil and my total fp is 3.350.119.042
you know what would be really cool? if Sir Emi made a multiplier  for mothership contracts like encrypts have... :19:


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: blakranger51 on February 26, 2008, 10:51:32 PM
OK WHAT THE HELL

News
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 3.079.016.960 credits and 32 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 1.953.921.300 credits and 30 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 2.071.546.402 credits and 30 special items!


8         sjman3 (#197)     15421     2193164     ONLINE     627.090.385


He's 1/8th my size and he's getting 3x the rewards I get

Something is NOT right here, maybe he's exploiting something with swarmers given the number of ships he has.


EDIT: Apparently the reward has something to do with the number of ships you use, he's using lots of tiny ships and is making a mint with this, Emi this doesn't seem like it should work this way, I thought the update was supposed to make using swarmers or pships to up your power not make the aliens get bigger or give bigger rewards...


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: davey boy on February 26, 2008, 11:21:15 PM
yes it is a bit harsh emi as he can sit down there mass creds then simply take first while we are earning 5mill for 400mill alien come on this isnt right


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: blakranger51 on February 26, 2008, 11:32:24 PM
Here's a little comparison:

Mine:
blakranger51(#35) destroyed an Alien Hatchling, salvaging goods worth 119.285.378 credits and 30 special items!
FP: >1.5 Bil
The items weren't worth even 200 mil


His:
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Alien Alpha, salvaging goods worth 2.140.576.399 credits and 61 special items!
FP: <150 Mil


EDIT
I've been recording the news, rewards, and the power, ranking, and # of ships of sjman3 with timestamps for most of them. I will post these if you need to see them Emi, but basically he's getting HUGE rewards for tiny aliens, and he's almost doubled his power in an hour or so.


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: lostedchylde on February 27, 2008, 02:33:39 AM
what if you did what he's doing, would you get a lot more?


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: SirEmi on February 27, 2008, 03:46:11 AM
The aliens have a random modifier, it's possible to get lower or higher rewards from them...

Anyway, we'll copy the aliens from Main to PvE tommorow, becaue they work fine on Main, with no credit rewards :)



Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: blakranger51 on February 27, 2008, 07:24:46 AM
Losted: No but a good thought, I think Davey tried and it doesn't work well at our power level...and yeah emi at first I thought that was what it was - just a lucky mission or two, but I've got about 20 of these huge rewards copied and each one was more than I was making on aliens 10x that size.

Thanks


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: blakranger51 on February 27, 2008, 10:27:36 PM
JESUS THIS HAS GOT TO STOP

News
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 7.384.147.518 credits and 30 special items!
Current server time: 2008-2-27 22:28


He's making twice as much on these than I'm making on the largest GT I can do!! Emi you have to fix this and reset him to around where he was before he started exploiting this!

Here's his growth:

News
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 3.079.016.960 credits and 32 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 1.953.921.300 credits and 30 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 2.071.546.402 credits and 30 special items!
News
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 3.305.676.096 credits and 104 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 2.488.874.304 credits and 35 special items!

Quote
STRIDER(#31)
2008-02-26 23:18:12
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re

Alien parts and alloy worth 3.305.676.096 credits.
11 x Large Carbon Case
30 x Peripheral Gravity Core
3 x Nutation Circuit Migration
14 x Medium Stone Chest
20 x Prismatic Suspensor
26 x Limited Reintegration Inverter
this is what he got

sjman3(#197) destroyed an Alien Alpha, salvaging goods worth 2.140.576.399 credits and 61 special items!
Current server time: 2008-2-26 23:29

sjman3(#197) destroyed an Alien Mature, salvaging goods worth 1.161.073.469 credits and 30 special items!
Current server time: 2008-2-26 23:43

sjman3(#197) destroyed an Alien Hatchling, salvaging goods worth 589.127.679 credits and 45 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Alien Mature, salvaging goods worth 239.490.750 credits and 35 special items!
Current server time: 2008-2-26 23:46

sjman3(#197) destroyed an Alien Alpha, salvaging goods worth 2.308.101.009 credits and 30 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Alien Mature, salvaging goods worth 1.342.016.544 credits and 41 special items!
Current server time: 2008-2-26 23:53




7         sjman3 (#197)     15421     3672196     ONLINE     735.967.857


7         sjman3 (#197)     17524     4224076     ONLINE     825.800.104
Current server time: 2008-2-26 23:23


7             sjman3 (#197)     17524     4220777                 ONLINE     838.839.371
Current server time: 2008-2-26 23:33


6             sjman3 (#197)     17524     3810076                 ONLINE     1.015.208.950
Current server time: 2008-2-26 23:50


6         sjman3 (#197)     17920     3503928     ONLINE     1.667.636.004
Current server time: 2008-2-27 22:28


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: blakranger51 on February 27, 2008, 10:32:07 PM
Less than half my size and he's making 70x what I can expect to make on an average pinpointer alien. I haven't gotten any items that big (in the quote) yet.

News
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 7.255.981.601 credits and 34 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 5.476.745.318 credits and 35 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 2.772.175.280 credits and 36 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 5.193.742.845 credits and 120 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 7.384.147.518 credits and 30 special items!
Current server time: 2008-2-27 22:33

News
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 3.160.971.983 credits and 62 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 3.261.555.610 credits and 30 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 1.974.283.840 credits and 53 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 4.218.439.480 credits and 70 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 6.455.074.024 credits and 43 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 3.844.290.058 credits and 46 special items!
sjman3(#197) destroyed an Unknown Alien, salvaging goods worth 5.888.694.976 credits and 59 special items!
Current server time: 2008-2-27 22:57

5         sjman3 (#197)     17920     3280128         2.023.161.371

In less than 24 hours he's almost tripled his power, and judging by these news reports he could possibly have more money than I do by now, how can this be fair, I mean he wasn't even noticeable 2 days ago and now he's in 5th, I've been working hard for weeks to keep my position and he's making tons of cash by exploiting this


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: SirEmi on February 28, 2008, 04:09:38 AM
ok, PVE server has the same aliens  as Main now


Title: Re: unknown aliens
Post by: drakken on February 28, 2008, 06:14:20 AM
apple pie is yummy  :wow:  hi