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Space Odyssey Info Terminal => Updates => Topic started by: SirEmi on February 03, 2008, 12:48:27 AM



Title: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: SirEmi on February 03, 2008, 12:48:27 AM
- If you try to buy / resupply a fleet that costs more then 5% of 9.223.372.036.853.190.000 credits ( 461.168.601.842.738.900 credits ), and don't have the full amount of credits for the ship(s) + installed upgrades, you will get the following error: "For ships of this size and cost, we need the full amount of credits before we can deduct any production bonuses."

- There is no way of resupplying a fleet that costs more then the maximum value, a fleet can cost more if you design a max cost ship hull then install some upgrades, in that case you will get the above error until you uninstall some upgrades to bring it below max cost, or reduce the hull size until the total ship cost including upgrades before bonuses is equal or below available credits in the mothership.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: basill on February 03, 2008, 01:27:54 AM
That second half sounds like a a pain is the butt.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on February 03, 2008, 12:39:17 PM
Ahh finaly something to fix the you only need to buy 1 max cost ship to max power bug.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: 42 on February 03, 2008, 03:30:00 PM
Thats not fair................I played to the rules as I had learned them and you change them on the day I max?


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: 42 on February 03, 2008, 03:48:15 PM
Ouch, got a little carried away, sorry  :))


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: the broken on February 03, 2008, 03:56:16 PM
Game updates.     
        Space Odyssey reserves the right to change any aspect of the game without prior warning. If you do not agree with the rules, please close this window and do not enter the game!

Sir emi is within his rights to do so, you agreed to these terms, it aslo says the donations are non refundable


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: 42 on February 03, 2008, 04:00:46 PM
Fair enuff

However I maxed anyway

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Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: 42 on February 03, 2008, 04:04:51 PM
I still think it's wrong, but you are right I accepted those terms when I joined, sorry to sound like I am whining but I do think it is wrong to change the rules without prior notice.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: lostedchylde on February 03, 2008, 05:24:23 PM
well what did you expect 42? it's not what we want or like.. changing the required credits to buy max ship is ridiculous. e, i would like to know why you are insisting on destroying what was THE BEST GAME online.????


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on February 03, 2008, 05:48:36 PM
well what did you expect 42? it's not what we want or like.. changing the required credits to buy max ship is ridiculous. e, i would like to know why you are insisting on destroying what was THE BEST GAME online.????
Hes not changing the price hes making it so you can buy 1 max price ship with 100 Max cost weapons on it. Then sell each weapon one at a time to buy more ships.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: 42 on February 03, 2008, 06:10:55 PM
Thats not true, I just tried to make a max ship, when I totted up the price (I made a mistake while designing) total cost of hull and equipment was just short of 3000 credits over max cost and I wasn't allowed to resupply it.

Therefore I assume I have to build a ship that comes to max price or less, therefore I cannot sell equipment to buy more ships, not a major problem I will just have to work harder to get the creds, buts Losted's remarks are still valid, effectively Sir Emi has changed the price of the ships.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: SirEmi on February 03, 2008, 08:18:58 PM
Let's see it was like this:

If you buy a 100 bil ship and install 50 bil upgrades you are charged with 150 bil.
If you buy a max cost ship with 100 x max cost upgrades you are charged max cost. (not an intended ship price  :)))

Now it's like this:

If you buy a 100 bil ship and install 50 bil upgrades you are charged with 150 bil.
If you buy a max cost ship with 100 x max cost upgrades you are charged 110 x max cost witch you have no way of obtaining on hand so you have to lower your ship cost to below the max that u can have on hand.

We are able to do this because the server CPUz can indeed calculate more then max cost, however the database can not store a bigger value  :))

Great fix to make sure you get what you bargain for.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: lostedchylde on February 03, 2008, 08:39:52 PM
yeah, we are all laughing. right.NOT


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: FTP on February 03, 2008, 09:08:31 PM
But this update has no sence....

Rules to max out:
- Have a total of 9.223.372.036.853.190.000 credits or more in Mothership + Secret Base
- Reach and maintain total power of 9.223.372.036.853.190.000 or more in the rankings until the end  of DDAY
- Those that max out will have a permanent protection and can not attack or be attacked

So when you get enough credits to buy the old maxed out ships with 100x 1 weapon. You have enough credits to buy powerships instead. When you reach max power you get permanent protection and cannot be protected. So this change didnt do anything.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on February 03, 2008, 09:54:17 PM
But this update has no sence....

Rules to max out:
- Have a total of 9.223.372.036.853.190.000 credits or more in Mothership + Secret Base
- Reach and maintain total power of 9.223.372.036.853.190.000 or more in the rankings until the end  of DDAY
- Those that max out will have a permanent protection and can not attack or be attacked

So when you get enough credits to buy the old maxed out ships with 100x 1 weapon. You have enough credits to buy powerships instead. When you reach max power you get permanent protection and cannot be protected. So this change didnt do anything.
Good point mabby Emi should make sure PowerShips cant be used to max power?


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: davey boy on February 03, 2008, 10:07:38 PM
we already discussed this we had max creds not just anyone can max with powerships and ftp your second place 60 dollars is yours so be happy


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: FTP on February 04, 2008, 06:57:41 AM
But this update has no sence....

Rules to max out:
- Have a total of 9.223.372.036.853.190.000 credits or more in Mothership + Secret Base
- Reach and maintain total power of 9.223.372.036.853.190.000 or more in the rankings until the end  of DDAY
- Those that max out will have a permanent protection and can not attack or be attacked

So when you get enough credits to buy the old maxed out ships with 100x 1 weapon. You have enough credits to buy powerships instead. When you reach max power you get permanent protection and cannot be protected. So this change didnt do anything.
Good point mabby Emi should make sure PowerShips cant be used to max power?

What is the sence in that just makes it like you need to get 5x more creds to max out. It would be idiot to make sure people need to get max credits before max power. As when someone reached 3 quint. He will max that same day anyways :/


Yeah you rox davey :)


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: Spayed on February 04, 2008, 07:17:32 AM
stupid update and it makes no dif because of p shippys usless just change it back will b the same thing


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: A^Bloody^Idiot on February 04, 2008, 04:21:52 PM
It does change it as you need max credits AND max power...
If you have about 2 quint credits you can buy powerships and max out with powerships, but you don't have max money then...
So you still need to play more :)


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: Midnight44 on February 04, 2008, 05:04:30 PM
I'm gonna be honest... This is probably the dumbest update I have seen since I began in round 4.  0o

Change it back!!!  :4:


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: SirEmi on February 05, 2008, 12:38:13 AM
But it's not fun if you design a fleet with everything at max, try to design a fleet with many upgrades and make it cost just below the max cost, and then you can resupply and have some fun with it after you max. That would be a good design to be used...  :21: And you would still need to do missions to get more credits for additional ships if you want to have more fun.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: FTP on February 05, 2008, 06:46:18 AM
No the fun part is rampaging missions with those immortal tanks. I Always have seen that the reward of maxing out so you get to play with the big toys. I mean come on we cant even attack anyone we may not interfere with anyone. So why may we not play with maxed out ships :(


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: Midnight44 on February 05, 2008, 05:31:59 PM
I agree with FTP. Please change it back. I tried to buy a 450 quad ship and it says: For ships of this size and cost, we need the full amount of credits before we can deduct any production bonuses.

Thats a load of crap. Lemme buy the stinkin ship.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: drakken on February 05, 2008, 08:24:15 PM
whats the point of resupply fleet if you dont get the bonus applied to all ships? haha this is why i quit this game  hi :))


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: A^Bloody^Idiot on February 06, 2008, 12:36:11 PM
You still get the bonus, you just have to have the 450 quad credits first, but I have to agree with FTP Sir Emi, of the 1 hand I see your point, but on the other hand, when you max out, you can't attack anyone, and you can't play with maxed ships...

Can't you make it the way it is now, but that you CAN buy maxed sized ships with everything on it, but you just need the exact max credits amount for it? That way you truly are maxed, in stead of just buying a maxed ship with 1.7 quint credits (with 80% line assembly) you truly need the 9,223 quint credits to buy a maxed ships where indeed you can sell all the parts for half max credits, but at that point, you already achieved max credits, so I think that's what it should be made to.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: FTP on February 06, 2008, 01:06:04 PM
Its bullshit either way just let you buy your ships with your line assemble. If i got 80% line I should be able to buy my max ship for 1.6 quint. Just like all other ships, I have 16% of the ship. I can buy it.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: A^Bloody^Idiot on February 06, 2008, 02:22:14 PM
If the aliens go, I say yes put it back to normal
If aliens stay like this (which I don't hope), I hope it would become like I said...


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: Midnight44 on February 07, 2008, 08:33:25 PM
I am gonna be honest. One of the main reasons why I even try to max is to get those massive ships and have some suicidal fun with them. Now you eliminated one of the MAJOR perks in reaching max power. Sitting up there with friggin powerships until D-Day starts is pretty stupid too. Please just change it back. You added that council preotection thing for maxed players, so why in the crap you gotta prevent us from having those massive boats.  :4:


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: SirEmi on February 08, 2008, 12:20:06 AM
Fine, we'll change it back it doesn't make any difference anyway.

Now if you could join DDAY I may be able to make SO Main more balanced, thank you.


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: Spayed on February 08, 2008, 02:01:48 AM
wow emi calling for D day :D, thanks for changing it back :D


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: FTP on February 08, 2008, 02:20:17 AM
You rock  :12:


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: A^Bloody^Idiot on February 08, 2008, 06:57:38 AM
Cool thx :D


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: blakranger51 on February 08, 2008, 09:27:29 AM
yay immortal tanks are back :-)


Title: Re: Ships with max upgrades fix
Post by: A^Bloody^Idiot on February 08, 2008, 10:05:00 AM
I want God-Like ships... :))