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Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.280.856.000.000 fleet power.
Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.278.288.000.000 fleet power.
Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.707.808.000.000 fleet power.
Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.707.808.000.000 fleet power.
Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.707.808.000.000 fleet power.
Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.707.808.000.000 fleet power.
Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.707.808.000.000 fleet power.
Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.707.808.000.000 fleet power.
Midnight44(#7144) made a successful attack and Karimun(#47121) lost 4.909.948.426.952 fleet power.
Midnight44(#7144) made a successful counter attack and Karimun(#47121) lost 5.977.328.426.952 fleet power.
Midnight44(#7144) made a successful attack and Karimun(#47121) lost 5.977.328.000.000 fleet
Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.707.808.000.000
Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.707.808.000.000
Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.707.808.000.000
Captain Banger(#45553) made a successful attack and Midnight44(#7144) lost 1.707.808.000.000


This surely isnt allowed...?????? To raise your bounty level so your own members can bounty to get the reward..

This is just a few picked from the news but it's been going on for a long time now...

Why should i play this game i ask myself when there's others who want the easy ride....

Im concidering quitting as whenever there's abuse going on you can be sure a certain name is always connected...

One very  :11: Chicpea

Thats not abuse its just good clean fun from loi isnt it???? i mean how will that help, oh wait yeah mid always finds a way, if you have to abuse the system to win a game maybe you should get a ps2 and buy a cheat magazine that would probably work better for you

i saw 2 bountys just drop off the list a 71 tril bounty on captian banger and a 38 tril bounty on midnight..

karimun's rep raised therefore showing hes the one that took one if not both of the bountys

thats the 3 i see involved and unless someone else confesses should be the only 3 to get in trouble..



i think they got this idea when they saw me take a 103 tril bounty on wolfy.. BUT we got our rep raised to this number to be able to bounty via attacks on loi members or nebing each other daily (to prevent attacks, a perfectly known stragy) and same when wolfy just recently took a 99 tril bounty on my, i rose it to that number by failing several counter attacks AGAINST loi members and a few TH members.. he just took the bounty before someone else could..

*edit*

i just now saw a 41 tril bounty drop off the list that was on karimun

i cant see a definent raise in rep due to someone taking a bounty therefore proveing that it was probaly midnight that took this one, for he has a counter and even if its a bounty you wont lose rep taking a counter and being sucsssful

but what their doing is farming the bountys and 100% abuse of the systeum

yep this is totally wrong i have not seen them do many missions eitherin the news but why bother when they can make creds with out the slog  of hard work

Ithink we need Emi's input on this :12:

I'm thinking that somewhere in this thread, theres a pot calling a kettle black.
I just hope that Emi will be able to sort all this out... and also take a careful look at that beforementioned pot.

i hope so to argus, point is if they feel the need to abuse something to win a game then they shouldnt be playing it at all, if emi had the time i would hope he would look at everybodys accounts and sort out the abusers once and for all

Well i created this post and have not done any attacking or taken any bounty's, i just posted what i see....

Im an honest player i dont see the point in cheating to win, It spoils the competition... And if i think something isnt quite right i will report it as i dont see the point in playing this game if the cheating is allowed to carry on..

Chicpea

Once again LOI learned this from the great naw and we are bad for doin it.

Well, like I said... I will be happy if emi does some investigating and decieds to reset everyone that was involved back to when the bountying started. Has anyone noticed how Lamma went from 65bill power to 3.6trill in less than a week!!!??? Or is everyone just blind? Look at how low wolfy was 1-2 weeks ago. Argus had him down to 1.8trill power. Now he is: 3   L wolfy28 (#39151) 2288829 120200007     23.180.314.715.130 . If you guys wanna sit here and point the finger at "The Bad Guys" then go ahead. It will just make it easier for me LOI to finish this war for good.  :)

you are so full of it mid you have totally broken the rules and wolfy done one bounty that was not even in the same alliance unlike you its always someone else with you i dont think a reset should happen a ban till next round for you and ypur alliance who took part

come on then kry when have we bountied our own members never and emi will see that so shut it

You seriously gonna sit there and say that it is ok to bounty someone that is out of ur alliance repeatedly like wolfy and Lamma? Is it ok if I leave for a few minutes then come back or what? ...lol

Midnight44 (#7144) (online) ATTENTION!!!

Lamma collected a 97trill bounty on wolfy. Be careful that he doesn't do any damage.
 03-08 21:59:16 Del

This is how he gained so much power so fast. I can't wait until you are all shocked to see how much of Lamma's and wolfy's power are from bounties. Wolfy collected another bounty on Lamma for 99trill no more than 8 hours ago. I find this funny how you guys wanna point finger at LOI.  :))

Im not pointing fingers im just posting evidence and if i had evidence of wolfy and lamma abusing the bounty system as half of SO see you doing i woulda posted that too. Im sorry mid you blatently carried on even though it was being mentioned that maybe wot you was doing could be seen as abuse. Right up until you actualy took the bounties you had planned on doing from the begining.. So dont start whinging like you always do just because you got caught out.

Chicpea

oh one each mid at least there not doing about 8 a day and on our own members

yes, but the difference is that we dont get our bountys by attacking our own members 10-15 times in a row to get power to deal the bounty

that 99 tril bounty he did on me, how did i get it? BY ATTACKING and who? well i countered kryologic, midnight, karimun, Nightshadow, and several other people... my bountyed raised tons when i failed counters killing off tons of p ships..  not by attacking my own members to pourpusly raise my bounty

and that first one? we rose bountys by nebing each other daily to prevent attacks from loi.. we could of attacked each other on bountys at any point in time, it was when i had hit a 100t bounty i noticed i could collect one on wolfy, and therefore did.. then he in turn collected one on me.. we never set up the powers to attack each other.. and it wasnt done in one day.. the 103t bounty i got was with rep that took over a week of nebing each other daily to get..

Lol... ur funny chic... :))

I'm done posting on this thread. I think I have shown significant evidence. By the way. I have collected 3 bounties in the past week. I'm not abusing ANYTHING. :)

Hey Lamma, I got news for you buddy. You bounty doesn't raise on a counter-attack. Man, I have enough of this garbage to last me for a while. Have fun pointing fingers in here guys.  :)

Midnight my man please stop with this its a shame that anyone feels the need to abuse this game and then all of a sudden starts pointing fingers everywhere, man every round you start blaming someone else for something you get caught doing, sure sir emi has never done anything about you but one day it will come back and bite you on the behind...

The fact is what was seen and done in the past week has been seen by everyone not just NAW you fail to see what your doing could be seen as abuse as in every round, sorry guy but this type of abuse is not acceptable by any player who likes fairplay, if being the top alliance or being number 1 means so much to Loi then go for it take it and have as many dreams of abusing as you like...


 Oh and for the record have you got the proof that wolfy and lamma ( two seperate alliances in a game. ) abused the game then i feel it is your duty to show everyone in so, i cant abide cheats and if you think that one bounty is abuse then you seriously need to count how many times this new powerful alliance loi has done it...

they say cheats never prosper well lets hope justice is served on you and your alliance..

Kryo i have the utmost respect for you as a person but how can you defend the actions of midnight them attacks were all in the space of about ten minutes, we were sat there watching them laughing our heads off that they were blatently abusing a game system, take the number 1 position your welcome to it your whole darned alliance and in rounds to come people will see just how great you guys were, or until next round when midnight finds another way to abuse the game...

I'm dreading the new update god knows what he might find to do with that one

TheDarkness

SERENITY/NAW

one final note ive never felt the need to abuse or even try to abuse a game what would be the point your only cheating the people you hold as friends

on your own members way to go sweating mid :sweat :sweat :sweat :sweat :sweat :sweat :sweat

Im not laughing mid i think uve proved over time that you cant play a fair round, you dont have the skill your nothing but a cheat and always will be... I hope Emi deals with this matter and puts a stop to your cheating ways for good, I have no respect for people who abuse the system.

Chicpea

"You bounty doesn't raise on a counter-attack."

how would you know ever try it?

go on have a member attack you.. then FAIL a counter.. see your self if it works or not, and i can garentee it dose.. for its how my rep went up so high

Well, there's no sense talking about it anymore. We are at war with NAW and I saw what Lamma and Wolfy were doing. In order to prevent my butt being handed to me on a platter I stated playing the same game they were- bountying eachother. I think we all need to grow up here and let emi handle the rest.  ;)

One more thing Midnight and Kryo could you please send me some type of evidence or post in here exactly when NAW was hitting their own members please, like i said i dont like cheats i dont like people who abuse the game, the game is fine as it is, so show me when Naw attacked their own members and i will leave the alliance and go it on my own for the rest of the round and then decide whether the games even worth playing anymore...

SO PLEASE LOI SHOW ME SOMETHING TO PROVE THEY ATTACKED THEIR OWN MEMBERS EVEN IF ITS JUST A LITTLE OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE

Sorry to be a pain i just want to add anybody in the game that can show me how does that sound

yes come on id like to see that as welll

dont tell me it happened and you saw it but never saved it or posted it please you no naw done nothing of the sort

Ther ya go again db, you complain cause someone said fart on a post, then you resort to that shut up game. well guys i'm sorry i'm not playin yer game. sd and are together in the war against loi, so its really no different than us taking our bounties before you do.
so please do bring emi into this then please do. if emi feels we are in the wrong here then let him ban us both and then you all will be happy hunting for gt's and blowin smoke up each others butt. quite frankly i am tired of you bunch of whiny babies.

ATTENTION   

Lamma collected a 97trill bounty on wolfy. Be careful that he doesn't do any damage.
 03-08 21:59:16 Del

one bounty you said you got the idea of bountying members from us your full of it kry

like i said i got that due to 4 days of attack - counter nebing each other.. wasnt by attacking each other 15 times in less than 10 min to raise our bountys and bounty each other

what we did, sure we DID collect bountys on each other (though i got the short hand with only 1 bounty and wolfys had 3..) but no we didnt raise our rep redicioulsy high useing 15 attacks in ten minunts.. nor countinous attacks on only each other....

i WOULD of gotten a 61 tril bounty on him if argus hadnt of taken it.. i think this goes to show even more that we dont actally plan to get our reps on and do the bountys

wait! didnt kaimun get a 30t bounty on wolfy to?? if he handnt what do you think would of happened? wolfys bounty would of slowly incerases due to fighing tell i could hit him again...

Man that looks like some battle??? just out of curiosity who is winning? A new dimension of pvp lol now we know wolfy was nebbed by argus, but what about rank 4, 6, 10, nightshadow i have no clue but way to go whoever did it unless of course if it was loi


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Ok db, how old did you say you were. you are starting to sound alot like lamma. like i said i posted my side of this i'm not in the moos for you peoples "iknow you are but what am i" game.

umm darkness actally wolfy unnebed when he bountyed midnight taking his lead ship (117 tril) then got re-nebed when karimun first attacked killing p ships then midnight attempted to counter (failing) .. then after that karimum did 2 counters captureing wolfys 3rd ship (31t) then due to that bounty wolfy did on midnight it raised wolfys maximum bounty up to were he can bounty me so, he did (99t) then he renebed when i countered the bounty nebing him again (why my rep went up again) then after that wolfy counter attacked  karimun once and failed, then again killing karimun's lead ship

and just by thouse events last night it shows how desperate loi was to resort to cheating, and how yes wolfy may get cash from bountys but they are not planned bountys like what loi did..

Then my apologies but still the attacks shown by chicpea certainly show an abuse of the game, there is no question on this whatsoever

Would everyone do themselves a favor and stop talking about this? I don't see what else is left to be explained. I have a feeling that someone's keyboard is about to break from all this arguing and accusations. Let's all hold on to our butts and see what emi decides to do about this.  :))

Midnight how many ships have our alliance lost due to the fact your alliance abused the bounty system??? i hope you can compensate us for that

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2 days ago this was and you have been doing this long before, i hate to lose to abusers so if its found out then please offer what you can

why are you trying to get us to stop midnight? your afraid something is going to come out of our typeing showing how guilty you are causeing even worse punishment?

I was able to indentify all the illegal bounties, just looking trough the logs for the biggest bounties gained in the last 3 days showed me all the illegal bounties. I also recovered all the credits, and there were only 10 illegal bounties in total.

The bounty system will now be updated to determine bounty vs. fleet cost, rather than bounty vs. fleet power. That should solve the problem with using power ships.

God Speed commanders!

Sir emi is there any way to find out if we were hit by the illegal bounty hunters so we can regain from our losses

lol if you were hit by a bounty then it wasnt illegal the bad ones were only the ones were someone attack intentionaly to kill only p ships

not hit by a bounty lamma, but the creds gained from them bounties enabled them to hit and zero me in that 3 day time frame that sir emi just stated, midnight attacked me 2 days ago hence he used illegal bountied creds to attack, i want the creds back for my ships lost to someone using and abusing the system, is that not fair???

hmm good point..

Well, that means that I get my lead and karimun gets his lead as well, since wolfy abused it. Ohhh... and don't forget that he had full marines.

i really dont think him taking a bounty on you counts as abuseing it :)

No he abused the bounty system within the 3 day period of time. Because of this he was able to grow fast enough to kill my lead ship. I am placing the attack wolfy made on me under the same circumstances as The Darkness.

sorry mid you got caught out yet again abusing the game, your an unbelievable commander its a pleasure being in the same game as someone like you, hats off to you and your alliance, it was a great try, lets hops next round you dont get the abuse all button on your keyboard again, im fed up with the likes of you who abuse and abuse round after round, sooner or nlater it will be a complete ban coz you just cant help yourself...

I think i will stay in council protection lol, you got to keep your fleets gained from illegal bounties so no point in risking what you did two days ago, i hope you can learn at least one thing from this midnight and co,,,,

CHEATS NEVER PROSPER

well darkness its funny you dont mention wolfy and lamma in the same sentence with midnight44. emi obviously convicted them of the same crime, and as i said they did it first, we only did it to compensate for them doin it to us. are you afraid to speak against wolfy and db or lamma. yes you are because they will turn on you and kick yer tail :)). you never cease to amaze me.

what you think for one minute kryo that the once they did it justifies the how many times you guys did it, you have no morals just like your alliance, and yeah im not exactly happy with lamma nor am i happy with wolfy for doing it the once but at least they stopped, you guys are like duracell bunnies you go on and on and on and on, theabuse you guys did was ten fold compared to their once, so dont be coming on here like your the damaged innocent party when its quite obvious your as guilty as the rest...

Again if you cant play the game fair any  of ya wolfy and lamma included then get lost and find a game more suited to yourselves, midnight barbies you can play with the ken dolls im pretty sure they wont fight back and lamma and wolfy can play kiss chase...

dont ever tell me im afraid of anyone, your mouth runs before you think just like midnights and that convo in chat remember the one he got banned for cussing rather badly if i had my way his main would have been banned the same goes for all you guys who did this to the game...

your pathetic the lot of ya, cheating abusing your as bad as kids with a new ps2, mommy mommy can i have that magazine it has cheats in it... grow up kryo and take responsibility for what you have done to the game and to your pretty good rep...

All of you have a hell of a lot to do to prove yourselves trustworthy in this game... downright pathetic the lot of ya

and plus kryo get your facts right i never did it thanks very much or i would of been punished which i wasnt

Oh and sorry Wolfy and Lamma i got myself confussed there for a minute i thought you were both the same alliance???

They did it once whilst nebbing themselves to stay out of loi's way they find they are in each others bounty range and if you read lammas post he was up front about it, you guys just lied like a thief in the night, my apologies wolfy and to you lamma, you lost much to much in my opinion Loi should have been disbanded and also put in the Hall of shame as all abusers should, remember kryo they abused once your guys were continuous and didnt stop it was relentless...

i never said you did do it, and in fact i didnt either. this alliance only did it a couple times total. there are time though that we hit each other to get a neb but it had nothing to do with bounty. anyway you guys are all sooooooooooooooo honest, lol. as long as loi is here you have someone to fight with. at least we dont lay down and play dead like lamma and sd lol

NO YOU JUST SAY TH HELP PLEASEEEEEEEE HELP SO DONT TALK CHEAP ABOUT LAMMA AND SD LAMMA HAS WON MORE BATTLES AND WARS THAN HOURS YOU HAVE PLAYED AND BEFORE YOU SANOT LITRALLY

i'm sorry all i heard was blah blah blah blah lets lay the blame elsewhere blah, they did it once your alliance did it multiple times emi estimates 10 times which means theres another 9 out there wonder who they can be huh???

You have proven yourself a great leader 9 unaccounted for bounties ripped my ships with creds gained from them bounties i want emi to take the creds from midnight and give them back, you want to talk about lamma thats your business, im talking what your guys did to me, oh and lets not forget it was only two days ago... you make this game a shambles its no wonder people just come and go when all they see is a top alliance only there through abuse

i still remembe first bounty. drakken had been trying to kamakazi me and failing. jacked his rep up. so i was waiting for him to put up pships so he would be in my range to bounty. then next thing u know mid takes the bounty. so the next night when i saw lamma was in my range to bounty. so i asked him to put up pships for me to take the bounty. then after i bountied him he stated that he could bounty me too. but for him to do that i had to reserve. wasting half the creds from the bounty to make my mission ships active again. we never went off attacking each other to raise our bounty. sure we took bounties but that's not cheating. everytime we got in range to bounty the other was done from our war efforts. u can say NAW started it but it all started when mid took that 20 tril bounty on drakken. i have no idea why u would defend a cheater kry. if what me abd lamma did was abuse then to hell with it. take the bounty system out all together. cuz if i have an ally in range to bounty i'm going to take it and let them take there's on me. but i will not raise my rep on purpose to take a bounty unless it's an enemy.

hmm 9 times.. so that dose explain how karimun went from being 0red WITH workers during dday haveing a total of 350 bil power to now being 0red without workers and haveing 919 bil power..?

wow i got 100 tril off a single bounty and that was beacuse after 4 days of nebing each other we came into each others bounty ranges..

so you think it "justifys" the one i did for 100 tril by giveing karimun 800 tril from bountys?

i hate yall refering this to all members of loi.. i never done such actions.. i have never cheated in this game and dont like the illegal bounties being referred to all members of loi... all the creds i have i have made from my own hard work  :4:

I have to support cameron on saying that.

You are all accusing LOI, but i have seen LOI and LOI members beeing provoked on the forum, in chat, or messages all the time.

All those bountyes done are a trick learned during this war by watching our enemies ways and actions, so i consider them justified by self defence. What's wrong in seeing what others do and doing-it better then them? I was not involved, i have done no so called "illegal bountyes", but my opinion is that there is nothing wrong using the superior understanding of the game to beat others.

Oke, it was a way to exploit a glitch in the bounty system, it was corrected by Sir Emi, bug-obtained advantages were punished. This way the game was improved... and that's all. And i have seen pre-aranged bounties done all the time, long before i was in LOI... I remember other people giving me messages at the beginning of the round "please reserve your main fleet, let me bounty you, and i will reimburse your loss trough market" so this was going for a looong time actually.

Emi could you please tell us all what you intend to do about this?

It is clear that Lamma and Wolfy invented this scam, and that wolfy would never have recovered so fast if he had not been abusing this bug.
Why should we play a game where those who abuse such bugs are allowed to prosper?

I say reset all those who have cheated to the power they had at the day the abuse started.... shouldnt be hard to spot, that would be the day we started the dday clock and nuked wolfy.

Emi, could you please let us know if you intend to let wolfy get away with this absurd abuse?

And if your going to do anything about them thern i suggest a ban on all members and joe and cameron, sorry but knowing about it is just as bad as doing it yourself, like you said cam you have been cheated before but its ok that your members do it...I mean ask anyone a certain member in your alliance who shall remain un-named has abused just about every aspect of the game he could find to abuse, Previous posts on the forum will show that if they are still there...


For arguses info sir emi has already gone through the accounts and the players involved have had creds or workers removed so your shouting off is pointless and irrelivent, keep to what you know...

As it keeps being pointed out the only members of space odyssey denying they did it is LOI we also know that wolfy and lamma admit to doing it once, however please remember they are seperate alliances, Loi are doing it to themselves, if the leaders of an alliance are allowed to do it then surely the alliance as a whole is under scrutiny as they are the ones leading by example...

I have already stated my dissapproval of lamma and wolfys actions on that bounty which they admit to, but if you read the very first post in here you will see those attacks and counters and if emi showed the time span on just them attacks you will see it was done in a ten to 15 min period, defend that alliance as much as you like, its illegal as sir emi pointed out and ruins the game for everyone except maybe yourself who seems to be trying to make NAW look more guilty than they already admitted to...

I have no clue what your problem is argus but it does not seem to be the th honorable way, this is an issue between NAW LOI and Sir Emi


You will not in any way be allowed to disrupt the peace between th and NAW if the truce is broken it will be your own doing for NAW will not break the truce as set out by myself Davey Boy Gunfighter Frank and Peter Angelo

 :)

i even gave the first bounty. emi can easily check and see it was midnight who bountied drakken first for 20 tril. your words r nothing but guilt argus. for u let an LOI member take a bounty on u. don't feel guilty. u had the required power without pships to be collectable. so no exploiting there.

I would like to see where in the rule book the section thats states the rule against doin what we did please. And davey please stop with the name calling and act like an adult. I dont care to here you callin me names in my mail box. Thanks

oh you dont well i dont care and what i said was not against tos and was my opinion i DID NOT BREAK THE RULES lol im aloud to say that

Fair play     
        Players who try to manipulate the rules and/or use loopholes in them may be deleted from the game. Each case will be looked at separately by the Space Odyssey team, before a decision is made.     
           
     Playing fairly and Honestly     
        Space Odyssey upholds high standards of moral behavior.



In a way kryo i guess this is what you were after, hope this helps

 :)

How is it manipulating the rules if there is no rule. i'm not tryin to start any more crap then whats already started, i would just like to see what, if any, rules that refer to bounties and this issue. what you posted dark is ok if there is a rule that was manipulated.

i posted the whole thing it was a loophole you were using to gain creds rather than earn them honestly like 99% of so, basically you guys tried to make a quick buck got found out and are a little peeved about it now... whether there is a direct rule pertaining to bountys or not does not excuse the fact the game was exploited in a manner unbecomming of the tos... you abused a system within the game did not report to sir emi to tell him that this could be done you just used it and used it and used it, why??? because it was easier to abuse it than to get it stopped...


Playing fairly and Honestly     
        Space Odyssey upholds high standards of moral behavior.


If you really believe what has happened to be fair play then so be iti seriously think loi should take a step back and say hey we have no morals

I have admitted it was wrong, what more do you want? I was only asking for factual information. I was not asking for you to tell me weather or not i have morals. Quite frankly my friend you have no right to judge my moral character. I am a good tax paying american with 2 children. I pay all of my bills on time, and dont cheat on my wife. There now you at least have something to pass judgement on me with. As far as the game go, we from LOI apologize for our wrong doing. Signed, Kryologic

If you read the post kryo i stated if thats " IF " you really believe what has happened to be fair play then so be it, i seriously think loi should take a step back and say hey we have no morals...

Your own mind has told you i was directing something towards you, when in fact I used the word " IF "

oh thats okay then not you lied to me last night kryo saying you were not one of the members that did it even after you were caught not good

I think its a joke to confiscate workers from wolfy and not take away the ships he only got through cheating.
After i nuked him, he had 30 trillion left on hand, 10 minutes later he was up to 130 trillion, still no ships though. Incidentally lamma also had a rather interesting rise in power during the same time frame.
Since it seems that everyone agree that it is cheating, I think it would only be fair to remove all they have gained through cheating. Reset all those who cheated to the power and ships they had when the cheating started.
Like for instance right after wolfy was nuked.

Lets see how well he will do without cheating.

Just so you know argus coz you obviously dont, sir emi took the workers and left them ships because when he went into the accounts to check he thought it unfair to take away the ships and leave with nothing

workers are nothing.
with the ships they unfairly gained, they can easily replace the workers.
the workers lost means less than nothing, it means go ahead and cheat, you wont really get punished.

well u let someone take a bounty on u. so u condoned it all argus. anything to stay in the fight with NAW without having to fight. so u let an LOI member take a bounty on u so that u can help with the war against NAW. u r a joke argus. u keep saying wolfy when infact mid started it all. the difference between what me and lamma did compared to what LOI members did. was that me and lamma didn't raise our bounty on purpose. they did by repeated attacks on there own members. yet all u seem to care about is wolfy. the big bad argus came after wolfy and was shocked it took him around 15 attacks to take out my first ship. oh no 0 wolfy for me please emi. he has finally learned how to defend his self against me the oh mighty argus. help me help me please!

yep you have done it argus

karimun(#47121) made a successful counter attack and midnight44(#7144) lost 11.040.731.073.680 fleet power i dont no there attacking each other again

Ok come on kry its getting insulting now thats two posts about davey in two seperate threads you have done this, if you are insinuating that davey sent emi info about loi then your sadly mistaken, if your not then what on earth are you going on about???

you removed your post how sweet kry

Lmao i know kids that lie better than you, at least next time make sure people havent already looked before you delete and lie about it, btw it was someone quite surprising that sent me the mail about that lmao, you cant trust anyone can ya kry

darkness you really dont need to post 4 times in a row.. im not a mod but im sure it would edit it if i was..

well ok i'll delete my posts and then kryo can get away with calling davey a liar, thx for the heads up lamma, i thought those guys were your friends

i dont mind you posting to help, but you can always go back and edit a post to add more in.. if i hadnt mentioned im sure someone else would have..

I was about to speak almost a page about what i feel about this. About my feelings I will just say LOL, i am amazed again how far people passion can go in a game. Some people need to chill, have a break, have a kitte-kat, it's just a game... it's all about having some fun. If needed i can provide some nice jokes and comics sites.

Banning 19 players of LOI  0o. Well, maby bann averyone has read this topik, because they all know  now 0o. I was not  watching the top players moves, because i was busy doing missions. I have read about all this in the forum. My guess is that more then half of LOI members were offline during all this, so the bann you propose has really no logic at all. My guess is that is just another "bully out of alliance" strategy. However all the dispute was solved already by Sir_Emi.

All games have bugs... the one thing i like about this server is that bugs get solved, people move along, dday comes... everybody has a new chance to prove their skills. I hope it remains the same.

Joe every round someone finds a bug and usually its the same person who abuses it, or the same people weird huh???, the quote you put in, read the post before from argus i was referring to that so quote him not me...i shouldnt have said ban more like reset to be more precise

Lammalord I believe there were posts between those of the darkness which were deleted later on.

There are some people there in the top who know things about this game most players, including myself, don't dream of. That's not cheating, that's beeing a good skilled player. And banning somewone or resetting them for beeing good players, who take care and use every detail of he game in their advantage is totally wrong. As far as i know usually cheating is something else, is messing with the software using hacks tehniques, and do on. And remember all palyers involved were in top 10 or close, and it takes money, skill and time to get there.

please people like you joe wind me up they did cheat thats why they were punished wheres the skill in that keep saying they did nothing wrong why dont you join loi they have a space free since cameron 07 left then you can learn to cheat as you seem to be there biggest fan :4:

when using and abusing the bounty system as they all did having skill doesnt even play a part in it, only needs one to do it and seeing as midnight god bless him was in and out of all their accounts or some of them half the time its not surprising they got as high as they did, joe you dont seem to know what your talking about i suggest as davey says to join loi if you havent already they will teach you so much, they are the cream of underhanded play

Well davey... i am a LOI member ever since WoS was disbanded, and i did that because some of my former WoS allies joined LOI.

For me is not a matter of beeing a fan, it's just a matter of principle. What was proposed here, banning or resetting all LOI members, needed an answer, because it was waaaay to much. I bet you don't know half the members of LOI, and what they did or not...

I have seen a 2000+ active users MMO completly wreked by "banning" issues, because the game masters were unable to fix bugs, and tought banning is the way. So they banned a few players, and then they included IP bann, and then class IP bann,  and they ended up banning like crazy. Afther a while ALL old players left,because the fun was gone and that game was deserted. They had two servers with 470 players online each (2 servers 100% full), and they ended up having rarely more than 10% in one server. Banning is a extreme measure, should be used in extreme cases. Every MMO has a community, and hate and simpaty are part of this deal. However if you chase out some members, their friends go with them, and their friends too... it's a bad choice.

I NEVER cheated, in no game i have ever played, because cheats make games too easy, and less challanging... and i don't intend doing-it here. I did'nt even get a gold account in most mmo's i played for the same reason, it would make the game to easy 4 me. Ask anyone if i ever asked 1 credit in this game from anyone.

Even if i would have been in another alliance, even at war with LOI, my opinion would have been the same in this matter.

With this answer my responses in this topic are over. I said all i had to say.  :12:

well one great thing about emi. is that if u ever get banned u have to have majorly messed up. he doesn't go around banning people. even someone that threatened to hack SO last round only got a 3 week ban. he was able to still play the game just with restrictions on what he could do. but it was only that account that got the ban instead of the IP address. so u will find that emi is very understanding and doesn't just go around banning people without a very good reason.

When is there ever going to be made a game where the dev(s) actually got the balls to delete and remove cheaters and game abusers for good. Make me Game Master or something and ill delete every1 who at all considers using cheats and such  :wow:

i agree good call

of couse i wasnt thinking of a perment ban.. only poeple who pop out of no where use some major bug and 0 everyone gets that.. but a ban for even like a week would hurt people bad enough to at least thing twise about cheating or abuseing.. and if anyone deserves it, it is midnight.. at least when i abuse i eather admit it and (like last time.. i lost all my ships and was reset) i was punished for it..

midnight on the other hand hides the bugs that he KNOWS are a problem.. secretly uses them and when hes caught he gets mearly a "warning" he is the one person whos been caught with more bugs than any other person.. so far..

Midnight44(#7144)
2007-03-14 18:17:57
Neb

Why don't you come out of ur neb and hit me man? I don't get what you are hiding from?


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Let me think, you lost workers which are easilly gained back, you got to keep fleets gained from illegal bounties and your creds, now should i come out the neb for you to attack again like you did before with your ill gotten gains hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


GET A LIFE MIDNIGHT AND LEARN HOW TO PLAY A GAME WITHOUT ABUSING IT

now that is said i can merrily go about my way lmao

Advertisement  :-  looking for an apology?? nowhere to turn for friends?? found a new way to cheat, if not join LOI we will teach all there is to know and more

i say all the trash talk is cashed.. we should all move on.. its just a game.. bye bye  hi

yah this topic is about done.. lets end the round already and start anew :)

The Teufel Hunden will not actively try to stop DDAY now that Sir Emi has made the post on the new upgrade.

The subjects not going to be closesd until something is done about the abusers, you cant just take away their workers so two encounters later they are back where they started, a reset has to be done, these werent small amounts they wer hammering they were huge and from their own members, and this is the abuse section so lets get something done about the abuse, ban them for a week or two, strip them of ships and creds maybe leave them with enough to build one ship, but leaving them with total power after abuse is wrong, getting stupid emails from stupid people is just pathetic aswell, he is on block now, SIR EMI YOU NEED TO BAN THESE PEOPLE MIDNIGHT HAS ALREADY PROVEN HE CANNOT BE TRUSTED IN YOUR GAME IN TIMES GONE BY THEN THERES HIS CHAT ABUSE WHICH YOU HAVE SEEN NOW ANOTHER ABUSE IN THE GAME WITH THIS BOUNTY, WHEN IS SOMETHING GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT HIS ACCOUNT

i would say in that case only bad midnight.. beacuse he was actally on multiple of the accounts the attacks..

isnt that not only abuse of the bounty systeum but abuse of the ToS cant you not farm alts for benfits to the main account?

Midnight is the blunt of this problem, HOWEVER! The rest of you should have stopped when you realized what was happening. You may not have done it to the same degree, but you're still guilty as hell.

Here's what I suggest as punishment:
Midnight: IP and account ban, he's broken 8 rules to date
lamma: 1 month ban, as he has broken ToS before knowingly
wolfy: 1-2 week ban
others: depending on severity of the crime, 1 week-1 month

You guys can get pissed all you want, but dark is right, punishment, not a slap on the wrist, but full blwon punshment must happen. People are seeing they can just do whatever and only lose a little of their stuff, which they can get back quickly, which serves no purpose other than to reinforce cheating.

also, maybe it's time for emi to recruit a few, trusted players, to serve as a "police force" in a way. No banning power or anything too major, but the ability to flag and freeze accounts (meaning it's unplayable, but the owner can log on and check messages and such) until emi can review them, to prevent cheating. To prevent abuse of this power, anyone caught doing so is IMMEDIATELY ip banned and their account(s) deleted. This would help with those who cheat as they would be easier to catch and properly punish. Just an idea.

wow - strong but really correct sugguestion :-)

no matter about persons involved I think ur fully right with this - there is not much being so frustrating as if ur sitting long hours here and c ppl just passing u and getting more and more ahead of u when u know they just abused the system and are cheaters. - Well I am pretty sure I ll get kicked for writting this (ingame for sure) but I don t care anymore. - I just wait this round to end and after that I ll be prolly away - since and thats where our opinions will differ luffy (and I don t wanna start a donations discussion anyway lol), I think if I donate for a game I ll have a good benefit for doing so, but here atm it would be like I sponsor abusers and cheaters and thats something I really dislike. - Well during the last days I made some observations which I already reported - we ll c what time will bring.

For now with happening virtually nothing to ppl who strongly violate the TOS and abuse the system I am afraid that SO will loose a lot of the good players and only the cheaters and abusers will stay ... and the next thing after that will result in a decreasing comunity which will lead to the end of SO ... - sad but I have no doubt it will come so if they are allowed to continue in this manner.

w/r bb

+1

Thanks for your opinion man. It means a lot to me. I don't even wanna ask what the 8 rules were. Wait a minute, I don't really care to hear them.  :))