Title: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Remfer on February 08, 2007, 06:06:45 PM Swordancer Central - Reason EXPANSION OF MUTATIONS
Swordancer Central is now going to be at war. If you REALLY don't want war just say so, but it is one way of expanding. Ok, so these are the requirements of war. Requirments to finish war: 1. The war will last for 1 week STARTS 2/9/07 at 4:00 PM EST (-5:00) and ENDS 2/16/07 4:00 PM EST (-5:00). 2. If you win, then i will not attack any of your members for the next 4 weeks (BETWEEN 2/16/07 at 4:00PM EST and 3/16/07 at 4:00 PM). 3. If you lose then at least 2 of your members must join LD50 (please give me a list of names if you lose) 4. This war will start tomorrow (2/9/07) at 4:00 PM Eastern Standard time (-5:00 from England/ +0 on time zone charts) (or 4:00 in the afternoon Eastern Standard time) If you attack before then the war starts immediatly and will last until requirment number 3 or 6 is initiated or until i dub so after the first week. 5. If you feel you do not want to fight the war at least one of your members must post here and must have an approval from the leader (unless leader posts) saying the war is canceled BEFORE the war starts. 6. If the war begins and you want to stop it then at least 1 member must join LD50. 7. If you want to make compromises on any rules please respond here. EDIT: 8. If i cannot attack any of your members (due to the fact that you have weaker members than me) then you have the entire week to build up, and if you cannot defeat me once then you automatically forfeit the right of one member (besides leader) of my choice. :P if u don't like it then you better make sure you respond to this post QUICKLY otherwise you may as well give me the list now! 9. IF YOU DO NOT GIVE ME THE LIST OR ONE MEMBER FROM YOUR ALLIANCE IF YOU LOSE, THEN UNTIL IT HAPPENS YOU WILL ALWAYS BE AT WAR WITH LD50... 10. IF NUMBER 9 IS INITIATED THEN YOU WILL OWE ONE EXTRA MEMBER PER EVERY WEEK YOU DO NOT GIVE ME THE LIST TO CHOSE FROM OR ONE MEMBER TO JOIN MY ALLIANCE. AFTER THE INTREST HAS RISSEN TO A TOTAL OF 3 MEMBERS IT WILL BE EVERY MONTH FOR 1 MONTH AND THEN IT WILL GO BACK TO EVERY WEEK, WHEN IT GETS TO 8 MEMBERS THEN IT WILL GO EVERY HALF WEEK, EVENTUALLY, I WILL FORCE YOU TO DISBAN THE ALLIANCE IF YOU DO NOT COMPLIE. 11. EASY WAYS TO GET OUT OF 10: #1. If and when you lose, give up the 1/2 members quickly #2. Reply to this thread within one day to stop the war #3. Don't let the intrest build up #4. Have fun, and when the week is up, if you are in range to attack me, try to destroy at least my best ship. When it is destroyed i will ask for the list of members so i can make sure it was you and not someone else. If it was you then you win (sorta...not really), and i will not attack you for one month (might change based on thoes circumstances) as i said. Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: drakken on February 08, 2007, 07:07:44 PM yay! hey man go to war with me :) take on all of al..ill join you if you win :P
Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Remfer on February 08, 2007, 07:13:45 PM Aeternal Light? I don't think so :))
u guys are like my allies sorta, i like never attack u guys...maybe at the very end of the round before DDay :P Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Seither on February 08, 2007, 08:41:36 PM lol, well, count g-unit out, we don't have enough members for this risk, lol.
Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Remfer on February 08, 2007, 09:18:53 PM U DON"T HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS? It's me vs the alliance!
BTW - The alliance has: 12 members totaling 90 million power total, with one member having 15 million power meaning they all have either less than 6 million power, or some have 1 and others have 20 Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Seither on February 09, 2007, 02:41:23 AM I have 11 members, and only 3 aren't noobs. We don't have the man power to be taking on a full fledge war as of yet.
Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Remfer on February 09, 2007, 08:11:10 AM HELLO! 12 members totaling 90 mil power with one person totaling 15 mil power meaning that 75/11 is less than 7 mil power each person
Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Seither on February 09, 2007, 10:30:45 AM once again, 11 members, 3 non noobs, that makes 8 who are noobs. They're not ready for this sort of thing, and I honestly don't need them scared away. I gave you your notification, so nah.
Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: FTP on February 09, 2007, 03:09:30 PM Noway AoF will participate in this war players in my alliance are not pawns who I will give to other alliances, all my members are free to go and stand were ever they want without hard feelings.
Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: chicpea on February 09, 2007, 04:27:44 PM Ok ive held out long enuff from posting on this topic... Now ive stopped laffing at the terms and decided that Remfer ur a nut im sorry but someone had to say it... :19: :)
Even if i was to agree to such a war (which i wont) i know my members would be very upset if i sent them to another alliance... I can say my members are loyal to Serenity and most probably wouldnt agree to leave especialy on the terms uve posted... Maybe having these terms might get you extra members but they would no way be loyal as they've been used as an ante in a game like playing cards.... hmmm maybe u should rethink the terms as playing war games for players is definetly not the way to build a loyal well balanced alliance. Chicpea :) Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Remfer on February 09, 2007, 05:26:11 PM I'm not attacking you first of all.
Secondly, America has taken German Prisoner's of War before and made them give information/help them out. I mean, no need to completely attack them until they're destroyed, just like we didn't nuke Germany to make them surrender, and after we nuked japan they became allies and we helped them. I'm trying to make it more like a war thirdly, if people really are troublesome and want to go back to alliances they came from then they can...i'm trying to be nice (in a creepy, taking you away from your alliance sorta way) I mean, haven't you read The fall of reach or the flood halo books? Master cheif was taken away from his family (in this case alliance for this gaem) at a young age and was trained to be a warrior for the good of everyone in humankind. If i take players who are noobs then i will help them and make them better. Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Seither on February 09, 2007, 06:30:45 PM remfer...this is not any of those....and you can't simulate real war in a space game where those rules don't apply. it's like trying to make cheese into ketchup.
Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: lostedchylde on February 09, 2007, 06:33:22 PM I did that once but i was really sick. :puke:
:spider2: Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: wolfy28 on February 09, 2007, 06:35:45 PM i see nothing wrong with what you're doing Remfer. your just role playing. which alot of people like to do. it's an MMO game but nothing to keep u from turning it into a MMORPG game.
Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Seither on February 09, 2007, 06:52:26 PM I'm not saying there's anyhing wrong with it. But he can't honestly expect many people to go along with it. The game is a little too different for it to work.
But good luck with it Remfer. Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: chicpea on February 09, 2007, 07:01:06 PM All i can say each to thier own on role playing, me personaly cant imagine Remfer torturing or brain washing players to stay in his alliance as thats just soooooooo wrong lol So the reasons u gave in conjuction with this post are a tad over the top... Just to remind you it is only a game and playing it like real war can only be done to a cerain extent, trying to take it beyond that is rather unethical.
Just my opinion. Chicpea Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: TheDarkness on February 09, 2007, 07:02:47 PM I would give my opinion but i was laughing so much at the original rules i decided i had best not lmao, oh my god this game goes from strength to strength lol, I think im going to attack sir emi, and if i win thats got to be a great capture for my alt alliance which will be named "cartmans doss house" that makes as much sense as bringing up america nuked japan i mean was that really needed???
( on a side note do your history learn it and you may find it was two atom bombs dropped NOT!!! nukes theres a big difference ) Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: wolfy28 on February 09, 2007, 07:52:31 PM yup if nukes were dropped no one would have lived in japan to become friends with. nukes make it unlivable for i think is was 10 years. no too sure been so long since i learned it.
Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Remfer on February 09, 2007, 07:58:44 PM yeah, and A-bomb radiation lasts for 1000 years after the bomb is dropped, so japan in hiroshima and nagasaki (i think i spelled them right) are still slightly radioactive. Anyway, read my post about how if they are wayyyyyyyyyy to troublesome i'll probably drop them to go back to their alliance, and i know i don't seem like the braiwashing kind, and i'm not, but i'm trying to make this "TEST/SMALL" war intresting :)
Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: chicpea on February 09, 2007, 08:07:20 PM Insted of playing for players on such a stern set of rules, how about making a post in the forum to keep track of losses then at the end say the loser has to hand over 1 player for a set time rather than making it sound so compulsory and final, but both alliances and members have to agree to the ruling.
:o) Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Seither on February 10, 2007, 04:37:33 AM you guys do know that nuke=atomic bomb, right? making sure.
and good deachichpea (G-unit is STILL not joining though, maybe at a later date) Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: TheDarkness on February 10, 2007, 09:24:12 AM I agree seither nuke = atomic/hydrogen, nuclear is a term used to identify any or all fission and or fussion weapons, but still to bring up what happened 62 years ago is a little in bad taste especially to use it as an example for a game lol, what makes that bit worse is that two weeks before those bombs were dropped you guys were negotiating peace and didnt sign till after the deed, so really not the best example to give lol...
Still that deed happened 62 years ago and its not my place to dredge it up from the deep maybe just let them rest in peace... Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Seither on February 10, 2007, 02:24:21 PM Never said it was a good idea to bring it up as an example, but you can't ignore the past and what has happened.
Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: bigbroni on February 13, 2007, 06:48:01 PM hum - what a wired post - but so just right to give my poop in here also.
Non of the 2 japanese cities which have been bombed with nuclear weapons have any sicnificant radiation activity higher than to be expected without bombing. - The process of a nuclear detonation sets a incredible large amount of all thinkable "isotops" free, most of these isotops are radiating eiter alpha, beta or gamma radiation, if a detonation is classified as a subsurface, surface or (could have been aplicable in Hirosima) low air detonation the "neutron" radiation is to be added. - But fact is both bombs detonated so high that the "NIGA" (neutron inducitred gamma activity) did not apply - since the nuclear material which is radiating any kind of radiation (alpha, beta, gamma) is in both cases only the matirial of the bombs it self (less than 2 tons) can emit any radiation. - Maybe I am not exact but if I remeber correct 1 bomb was like 18,X KT and the other was like 23,X KT (KT = kilo tons TNT) - both have been pretty small weapons, the larger amount of radioactive material did set free during the detonation, only a very small amount was left over and these amount was in the fall out cloud after the detonation ... - well I meight not have used the best english for this - but u may c that I don t deal with this the 1st time ... - btw LD50 in coincidence with starting a war is a really bad name - since LD50 means for chemical agents the number of molecules to kill 50% of the exposed ppl (lethel dose). concering nuces on germany in WW2 - well I am pretty sure the US would have dropped if they would have seen a chance to - but they have simply not been ready in 1945 .... - in Japan the US had lost of support from "so called" POW ... so called because Werner von Braun (e.g.) was not in the german military .... so he could never have been a POW since thats an exclusive status for combatans - or with easier words soldiers, airman and sailors (OK and for Frank also Marines) ... well to make a long story short, what the hack is the sence of this post - I mean this is a game and nobody here will except to be forced into anything ... and the examples given here above are so wired and indicate lack of historical knowlage that I would like to go even more crazy on it than I am already are ... anyway I supose to log and put this post into the dust bin ... w/r bb Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Borg! on February 13, 2007, 10:55:23 PM no this has to be THE WORST RULES FOR WAR ive ever seen do you acually expect someone from a 90mil point alliance to even have members high enough to be worth adding to your own allinace also do you even think they will join if you "win" and wars dont have preset times for start and finish they just have a preset time to start and the person who wusses out first loses. So wars are really a matter of who can take the most losses. and also a better way for finishing a war IRL and IG is to have the loser pay for the losses. IRL we made germany have a huge debt after WW1 and WW2 and infact WW2 was mainly started because the germans wanted a leader to get them out of depression which is what hitler did and then because he did a good job at getting them out of depression from ww1 they believed anything he said thus adding all the drama thats not needed to be said. so all in all just have a designated start time and the one who says OK IM DONE has to get lets say powerx10 credits from start so for them 900mil credits to your members and im sure you have a higher power so you would need to supply them with more im guessing your alliance's power is around 200mil so you would ow 2bil if you lose how does that sound.
sorry for bad puncuation and all that i was too lazt to hit the , and . buttons when typing Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Silverthorne on February 14, 2007, 12:03:37 AM Ahhhh Remfer, so I guess to get people to play in your war you will have to modify the rules of engagement a little(LOTS), or just ask alliances ingame if they would like to engage in wargames for a while? :gunsmilie:
"Four scores & seven beers ago, I blacked out" Title: Re: WAR BEGINS WITH LD50 Post by: Remfer on February 14, 2007, 06:21:28 PM yeah...it didn't really work out cause no one was close enough to me to attack. :(
anyway...the rules have changed and the war is over there was no peanalty cause there really wasn't a war since no one could attack...and i'm too lazy to officially change it |