Forum - Space Odyssey MMORPG - a massive free online space game

well im here asking for everyones opinion, im just wondering if there any other commanders thinking "like my self" that this game is comming to an end ? this game has lost alot of its excitment like it use to have .


Smee

pvp is broken, people attack each other just to show that they are better, but without real profit. Our aliance didnt sign any truces*, and guess what? No one attack us :P

* Ok, we have some 3, but i dont care.

This game has lost the excitement for me  0o , I am hardly on as much as i used to be, it started towards the end of last round for me. Maybe all the drama that happened and ppl trying to find ways to exploit the game have taken a lot of the fun out.

With every day that passes I lose more and more interest in logging on but I still do trying to find something worthwhile again. Besides my Gold account has 215 days left and it would be wasted.  :12:

Maybe I should take some time off from SO, then the excitement might return.  :21:

idk if emi has changed things or not, but ive caped several ships already so i do think hes been fixing boarding. the problem im looking forward to now is when encountering the donators. thats still living hell and a partybreaker.

yes this game is more annoying than anything now...thing that makes me not want to play is the stupid encrypts and very low reward mothership missions.you have to do hundreds and hundreds of encrypts when you first start out before you can get any good mission ships...that is very very BORING.on top of the hours and hours that it takes to level up encrypts...the rewards suck.its useless trying to get encrypts over level 400...bounty system sucks..there's 4 pages of people i can see and only 3 collectable ...all allies  of course.....mothership missions are good for a week when your commander reaches right level  then for the rest of the round is totally useless..after a certian power the only way to make money is goldtransports....which everyone shares...the problem with sharing events instead of having a set # for each person is the "bots"  in your power range that stay on this game 24/7 take them all....the market sucks and has since i started...instead of limiting amount and trades per day emi should have just made it public...no more outbidding then.and everyone could see who was transferring...even with the new updates that are planned everything else is still going to suck just the same...problem is all these changes to the game are made and no ones opinion is asked...emi just does it and says deal with it...well i've noticed the heavy donater's are listened to...but every other online game Ive played the creators have polls to see if new updates are wanted on a vote system..emi mentions " because of your suggestions" in his update posts sometimes...like with the recent market thing...it should have been voted on what to do with options people could choose to vote on not just boom thats it deal with it....its hard as hell to start a round and easy as hell to grow once you reach a certian power...STUPID.  yeah Smee, this game is dying...alot of people are quitting or just not as active.who wants to poor hours and hours of time into a game thats just plain  aggravating anymore? :yawn:

first off - eliminate alts. the idea of a PvP game that allows alts is ridiculous. most games with PvP do not allow alts and making one gets you banned. the market should be public and 10 items / 5minutes instead of 5. but the fact is players don't really bother playing this game to it's full potential in the galaxy. mining-alliances holding and defending systems-commander fleets,there is a whole lot that could be happening but people just rush for the top ten then yell "dday dday" as soon as they get tired of accumulating power. sheesh. the way i see it - this game hasn't even begun to be all it could be.



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only the boring get bored                                   

lostedchylde, what do you mean by "PvP game"? :P People do mostly missions etc, with some ocasional attacks just to anger others.

lost, emi has said he can never properly ban alts because siblings,loved ones, friends, and classmates often play the game from the same computer, meaning they will show the same IP address. Since he can't tell who is using an alt and who isn't, he decided it's better to let people choose if they want an alt or not. Plus, the way the game is now, having an alt does nothing but mean you spend more time online trying to raise the alt's power too.

But hold out my friends, don't quit just yet. You can always do like me, temorarily retire and hang around goofing off until the game looks good or something.

Well Seither, he SHOULD ban the alts, addition via subtraction.  And Im tired of waiting, Ive waited a year and a half for a viable, practical upgrade to the game, and Im not talking 'you can now add avatars', whoop-frikkin-ee.  This game is nothing more that who can do the most the fastest.  Honestly, how much tact does that take?  What truly is the purpose of being able to put fleets into the galaxy to protect a quadrant.  Anyone figure out how to use that to an advantage? 
Honestly, we (FA) and WoS are at war because we're BORED.  No other reason.  I feel like attacking just to stir up the mud.  This game used to rock...I remember breaking into a sweat b4 logging in wondering how many attacks I took.  Now if I log out for a week, I come back to nothing.  Forum (alliance) posts are way down, there just isnt an excitement to playing. 
Im sick of everyone saying why something cant be done, how about telling us what can be done , and then ( heres the real trick) implementing it in a timely manner.  Need I mention Planets/Council?  Im about a month away from deleting my beloved #298 ID and moving on to a more challenging game, like Spider Solitare of Minesweeper. 
And before someone makes a ignorant response about why or why not, I do donate, not a ton of money, to this game; I feel I have the right and the obligation to present my grievances.

Try doing what I did. When I first started, about a year ago, I played through a round and a half. It got boring quickly, partly because I didn't understand half of the game yet.

When I rejoined about halfway through last round, I rejoined my previous alliance, and found that after learning the basics of the game again thanks to a helpful guide from Midnight44, it was more fun than even when I first started, when missions were things that only the top 20 really did, and the rest of us just wailed on each other with ships :sweat made a lot of enemies that way...
but back to the point...I would say if you take a break from Space Odyssey for a little while, a few weeks, months, even a year. When you come back, it will be more interesting than ever, because with all the changes it will be like a new game! Only one that you don't have to spend 5 hours reading to figure out how to play  :14:

I'd wait roughly a week or 2 before deleting your account.

And mrtimbr, emi would love to ban alts, but he can't without punishing a lot of players unfairly. There are people who have to share a computer to play, and he can't ban alts and know if the person playing is the same person or a sibling/friend/classmate who are using the same computer. Otherwise he would.

and blak, mrtimbr already took a break long ago, most of us veteran players have at one point or another. I took a month off last round. the game just isn't what it use to be.

Soooo if a month doesn't work, take a year off...find a new game, do something else, something non game related

The problem with only taking a month off I guess is that when you come back, there is an update, maybe two. And neither of them are major, they are like, new colors! or something else completely irrelevant to gameplay. When I left and came back, there was an entire GALAXY in the place where I had grown accustomed to a lovely, gray, patch of starless background color.

a month or a year won't make a difference if gameplay is the same blak.

We were around back when the game was totally different. There weren't even missions, only you, your segments, your secret base, and a lot of people between you and the top ten. Getting up there took a ton of skill in designing, and a lot of strategy on who you attacked and who you didn't. The game is now all pressing buttons and being on as close to 24/7 as you can. Even a year off wouldn't repair that damage i'm afraid. I hate to say it, but smee is right, old SO>new SO.

Well, thanks for acknowledging me blak. Means a lot.  :6:

I agree that the game has gone to crap as well. I used to kick butt with the mothership missions. Now that I am not on as much, doing galaxy is out of the question. I never have time. Some of my alliance mates ask me why I'm not doing so well as I usually do. Well, the answer is that I did a few bounties at the start and it got my commander level up so high that I couldn't do what I usually do- mothership missions. My only way of making an income was to do encrypts. This has been EXTREMELY slow and painful. Let me give you guys a word of advice... Don't let your commander level get ahead of you at the start of the game. Now is all I have to do is roam the galaxy and do 2% encrypts until I can afford to do encounters, because mothership missions were out of the question. Looks like emi pulled a fast one on me and changed the mothership missions to where I can do them now.  :))

im glad to hear its not just me here again having slow issues about the game, id like to thank everyone for posting there opinion and statements.first off u can band alts but make were u tell emi that hey this ip/comp is being used for me and family to play ur great game, u know wat i mean there are games that do that, and make it were u have to tell emi that hey im smee's sister and we share the same pc to play so im not a alt. u know wat i mean guys.
ok also i agree with mrtmbr, back in the day when u took out 20-50 hits daily was fun it made u not want to logg off in hopes people wouldnt attack you lol, i sat around even during war time and have only been hit like 1 a week, makes me not want to even logg tell friday lol. :12:

i guess thats all for now

Smee

Here is some of my thoughts about alts.

Using same ip, does not mean that 2 players are alts. It means nothing, and no one should be banned of that. Why? There are some things to consider:

Many players from single ip:

• What about school/cable etc. network? There is online game ogame (Note: alts strictly forbidden), there was even 30 people online, many of them was attacking one player, because they could just arrange attack by talking to each other. From the server side, they were seen as coming from single ip address. Now, should they all got banned? Witch players are true, and witch multi account? There is now way to know that...
• Dynamic ip address. Thi is less likely, but it is possible that dhcp will give me same address as someone else had...
• You visit friend, who also play online game. You are not sure if you reserved fleets? Lets crash some Second Life ships? (joke :P). And now you used same ip as your friend.

One player with many ip's:

• What if someone will use anonymous proxy for one browser, and direct connection for other?
• What if someone has access to remote desktop on other continent?

Use cookies to detect multi accounts? Its naive...

Please note, that there is no way to detect who is alt and who is not. There is even no way to detect if player is real, or is it bot...

I had two alts, but after my 1st round i left them :)

your right there isnt a way to distguish real alts, but we can put in an honor system for each and every player to say ok i wont play an alt, and thats wat my initial idea kinda leads to in my prevoius post.

but to get back to the topic at hand, im looking for theroyies and thoughts on if the end is near ?

Smee

also id like to apologize to emi first off becouse this could be semi heart breaking for him us as players talking about the end of his game

Smee

i think the game is great the way it is how can you say the end is near its just beginning with all the updates that emi has in mind so the game has changed i think for the better adapt with the game thanks davey boy

As long as the updates keep coming, the game will still go on. Just because it has turned away from the good old days where all we did was  :bash:  :rifle: doesn't mean the game is ruined. I admit I do miss the excitement of logging in to see a hundred attack messages, and looking on the ranking page and having half the people on it nebbed and 0red, and no truces to be seen, but the missions aren't all bad...I just think we need bounties with less rewards, but more of them available.

it does make me laugh that people want it to go back to the days of war well im up for it but if you hit someone now you dont here the last of it

Ah, sorry for my long offtopic about alts, but i just dont like that people compalin about alts, while they might not know that its impossible to detect alts etc.

Back to the topic.  why game become boring (?), why?
Im not some uber-old-spaceo-player, but!

I was playing other space-web-based games. Most of them was pure pvp. No computer events/enemy/whatever.
For some time it was interesting...
But than i spotted spce oddysey.There was:
PvP boarding - oportuninty to steal other player ship! Awesome!
... (killed because of galaxy fleet bug)
Many other ways to get money. Oh, great stash! Its so profitable that everyone is keeping money, and i can steal it! w00t!!
Ah, people compalined that its too high %%...
Now noone keep money in stash...

Alright, what about other ways to get money (creds:P)?
Bioframs! Yeah, tht might be good at very beginning...
But... Hey, workrers?! Yeh, they are... Yeah almost like some income:P
If you accidentally steal 100x more workers than you can afford its really cool.
But usually they are useless asset :wounded1:

So PvP is acually useless. Most do missions/events.

Now, with my f**kin long post. No really i hate forums.
I really aprecciate emi's job, that he made that game. But now its like offline game 0o

Dont get me wrong, but i play online games to try to fight with other people, no some d**n Si (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si) <-- click Si link plz.

i am formally asking to have this thread closed

its not geating the response i thought it would


Smee :12: