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Title: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: A^Bloody^Idiot on November 11, 2006, 08:22:10 PM
Invader A^Bloody^Idiot (#8752)

Engaged Units
Fleet Name # of Units Attack Defence Hitpoints
AlmTnBll 1 584405117003 0 798136901138
FtRimmlIon 1 512526755171 0 645218719342
AllMoStr 1 415299796313 0 522884173906
! War Ship ! 1 293163518829 0 400549628492
What to name this... 1 262167336114 0 330207264829
? Ship name ? 1 208692508678 0 262923264819
Don't know a name... 1 147542719734 0 201755992098



Defender Unidentified Fleet (#)


Engaged Units
Fleet Name # of Units Attack Defence Hitpoints
Rat Pack 2 7291357 3180870 85680 1419000



Assault Note


A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s AlmTnBll fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet AlmTnBll did 0 damage to fleet Rat Pack 2.
A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s AlmTnBll attack failed.
The fleet Rat Pack 2 did 798136901138 damage to fleet AlmTnBll.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet destroyed 1 of A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s AlmTnBll fleet.

A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s FtRimmlIon fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet FtRimmlIon did 0 damage to fleet Rat Pack 2.
A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s FtRimmlIon attack failed.
The fleet Rat Pack 2 did 645218719342 damage to fleet FtRimmlIon.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet destroyed 1 of A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s FtRimmlIon fleet.

A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s AllMoStr fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet AllMoStr did 0 damage to fleet Rat Pack 2.
A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s AllMoStr attack failed.
The fleet Rat Pack 2 did 292230020131 damage to fleet AllMoStr.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 attack failed.

A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s ! War Ship ! fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet ! War Ship ! did 0 damage to fleet Rat Pack 2.
A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s ! War Ship ! attack failed.
The fleet Rat Pack 2 did 20873572867 damage to fleet ! War Ship !.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 attack failed.

A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s What to name this... fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet What to name this... did 0 damage to fleet Rat Pack 2.
A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s What to name this... attack failed.
The fleet Rat Pack 2 did 330207264829 damage to fleet What to name this....
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet destroyed 1 of A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s What to name this... fleet.

A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s ? Ship name ? fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet ? Ship name ? did 0 damage to fleet Rat Pack 2.
A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s ? Ship name ? attack failed.
The fleet Rat Pack 2 did 262923264819 damage to fleet ? Ship name ?.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet destroyed 1 of A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s ? Ship name ? fleet.

A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s Don't know a name... fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Don't know a name... did 0 damage to fleet Rat Pack 2.
A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s Don't know a name... attack failed.
The fleet Rat Pack 2 did 201755992098 damage to fleet Don't know a name....
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet destroyed 1 of A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s Don't know a name... fleet.

 


Assault result


A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s 1 AlmTnBll are destroyed during battle.
A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s 1 FtRimmlIon are destroyed during battle.
A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s 1 What to name this... are destroyed during battle.
A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s 1 ? Ship name ? are destroyed during battle.
A^Bloody^Idiot(#8752)'s 1 Don't know a name... are destroyed during battle.
You attacked Unidentified Fleet(#0)'s fleet and mothership from deep space.
You destroyed Unidentified Fleet(#0)'s 0 ships and lost 5/7 ships.
Your attack failed and achieved nothing.
You inflicted insufficient damage on Unidentified Fleet(#0).
 

THAT IS WHAT I CALL: NOT FAIRE!! :4: :4:

This is 208% I know it's hard to do, but just look, I didn't do any damage at all, and first I managed to complete 244% with no loss at all, and others which were quite easy to do...
But I demand an explenation for this!!! :confused: :confused:
This costed me ALOTA MONEY!!! :2: :2: :2:

C'mon this isn't even a killerfleet anymore, this is sumthing wrong!

Oh yeah, don't look at the ships names, I didn't knew what to call them :sweat

Greetz, Thx, ABI


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: Russell on November 11, 2006, 08:32:03 PM
Emi thats a bug for sure. As if a ship would do 0 damage against a fleet     


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: TheMerchant on November 11, 2006, 09:26:31 PM
well if you look at the defence and the # of ships its completely reasonable that they do 0 damage. but yeah wow thats worse than mine :( i lost 3 /4 ships in a 100% ish mission kinda like that xcept 2 fleets instead of one
well anyway ouch yeah


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: Argus on November 11, 2006, 09:45:29 PM
Its not a bug. Either a ship destroyes its target doing X damage, or the damage is less than enough to kill a ship, which sets it equal to zero. Always been like that.


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: ars68 on November 11, 2006, 10:08:04 PM
1 point of defense is supposed to take off 10 points of damage each per ship in the fleet... what is really wring is sometimes I will try to use a defense swarmer fleet like that, but then it gets blown up by a fleet that it's TOTAL attack (not even counting how much lower it would be due to accuracy) would go through all of the defense.  very frustrating.

and the problem here, is this:

you almost positevely had the cost calculator turned off, and thus fell victim to a tinyman attack.  with no cost limit protecting you, you faced a fleet you had no chance of winning against.

anyone wondering what I mean there, look it up (or ask someone else to if you don't have gold) and then consider how much one of those ships cost... I believe it will be something like 2-4 mil each.

meaning, that fleet cost 15.582.714.000.000 or something like that...
but looking at the size of your ships... it doesn't look to much bigger then your ship's cost, especially for a 200+ % difficulty (higher difficulty = larger credit limit on enemy forces)


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: SirEmi on November 12, 2006, 01:26:56 AM
Ars is right, that's the worse fleet you could get, a concentrated fleet attack in that 1 fleet, combined with maybe no cost calculator..... I just calculated the total defence, it's 624.723.467.760, so you would need that much damage to even reach armor, not considering if it had any shields on it...

And to destroy them all... you would need...  :gun_bandana:  624.723.467.760 damage + penetrate shields and do...  :rifle:  10.346.435.583.000 damage

Let's see, you bigest fleet has 584.405.117.003 attack and 1 ship, reduce that with accuracy, and well, it's not even 624.723.467.760...

The difficulty is really not a factor here, it's the cost of those tiny ships...  :shocking:  :sorry:


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: TheMerchant on November 12, 2006, 01:29:48 AM
so basically you got unlucky and that swarmers are still good ship killer and always will be


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: A^Bloody^Idiot on November 12, 2006, 04:54:24 AM
Okay, that makes me unhappy, but still I think it's not faire :P
But I guess I just have to accept it :(

Thx anyways guys...

But I have to say, that I NEVER!! turned the calculatro OFF!!
It's ALWAYS been on...
But I guess it's still right then :(
Why does it always have to be me?

But 72.595.593.921.230 was the total cost of that... I did 208%, and you can't tell me that my ships total cost acturly cost 35 trill or sumthing :sweat since the calculator was ON!! :14: (they don't even cost 7,2 trill all together.. :wounded1: )

But thx, anyways, I'll just accept this, I just don't think it's funny :wounded1:

Thx, Greetz, ABI


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: Russell on November 12, 2006, 09:52:07 AM
Fleet Name     # of Units     Attack     Defence     Hitpoints
Rat Pack 2    3257    718698    19359    167351
FOO FIGHTER 2    992607    47557    1931    10709
Interplanety shuttle 1    631651    10170    21    4510


Assault Note


nexis(#25876)'s NLT III 1 fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet NLT III 1 did 545062207 damage to fleet Rat Pack 2.
nexis(#25876)'s NLT III 1 fleet destroyed 3257 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 fleet.
The fleet Rat Pack 2 did 347608250 damage to fleet NLT III 1.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Rat Pack 2 attack failed.How could rat pack do damage when i killed all of his ships


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: A^Bloody^Idiot on November 12, 2006, 12:42:14 PM
Cus every fleet does damage, even when they are killed...
It's like, your and their ships shoot rockets at the same time, and then go towards eachother and then hit eachother at the same time...
 :P


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: Lammalord on November 12, 2006, 01:18:26 PM
abi, 208% means that the fleet can like 5-6x more costly than your fleet, your the idiot that did a % that high...


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: A^Bloody^Idiot on November 12, 2006, 03:19:18 PM
Okay I'm gonna proof sumthing now..

AlmTnBll 316191366996 0 632651171066 96 % 75 % 1.350.000.018.550
FtRimmlIon 255585306390 0 511439049872 96 % 75 % 1.100.000.018.575
AllMoStr 207100457905 0 414469352917 96 % 75 % 900.000.018.595
! War Ship ! 158615609403 0 317499655979 96 % 75 % 700.000.018.615
What to name this... 130736821542 0 261742080201 96 % 75 % 585.000.018.620
? Ship name ? 104070154843 0 208408746859 96 % 75 % 475.000.018.555
Don't know a name... 79827730603 0 159923898379 96 % 75 % 375.000.018.565

Add those together and you get: 5.485.000.130.075 total cost..
If you do that 5-6 times you don't get 72 trill...

It was acturly 13,2 times all my ships/fleets together...
And I had the calculator on, now I won't damand repayment or sumthing, but I just wanna tell you that this is not suppost to happen according to what every1 sais to me...
And Lamma, if the highest mission is 10 % or chose to do higher then 50%, I chose to do higher, after all, this is a game of war/risk/strategy, although these days I have to agree with some it's more about luck...
Since no1 wants a war anymore (I get my orders aswell), risk is your own choise, and strategy ? what is the strategy left? chosing encounters or mission contracts? :confused:

C'mon things HAVE changed alot, I don't mind but the BASICS of the game should NEVER EVER CHANGE!!! :wounded1:

I don't wanna sound rude but more and more (known) ppl keep leaving; BigBroni, Ricu, Ronald, SirDuction, TamTam, Executioner, Nicholas D. Wolfwood, Hellsword, FTP (even Lightseeker wanted to quit), and way more others, but they might have other reasons (like Lunanov and WoW)
But I'm changing the subject now...

But you can't proof to me that this is a normal 208%, and yes I might be the idiot doing that high, but THAT'S MY CHOICE!!! And it might even be the better 1 'cus I'm not seeing or saw you above me...

Greetz, ABI


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: chicpea on November 12, 2006, 05:32:11 PM
Well i can say SirDuction hasnt left due to the game changing, i see him a while ago he's busy with work related stuff at the moment, im tryng to twist his arm to come back lol

The Exercutioner never left due to the game changes either he just lost his internet connection lol

:o)


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: A^Bloody^Idiot on November 13, 2006, 02:03:23 AM
oh yeah well, I dunno about that, but I just gave names that I knew that stopped playing :sweat


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: Seither on November 13, 2006, 01:06:35 PM
ok, what are you talking about, having cost calculator on? I think I missed something in my absence from the game (which I'm only able to be on forums until the 27th...kinda stinks, but eh).

And do people never learn, every time you complain about missions they get changed and you complain that they are worse. Stop complaining, and learn to deal with the game the way it is now. Sorry about your luck.


Title: Re: upgraded killerfleet ???
Post by: A^Bloody^Idiot on November 13, 2006, 01:36:34 PM
I keep saying that I will just accept it since it's just part of the game but since this was 13 times my fleets, I thought it might be a bit too big, and I have NEVER EVER complained about that game.. 0o

Greetz, ABI