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Excessive Money Transfers

About 10 hours ago, before I went to work, there was someone doing excessive amounts of money transfers, that the amounts being traded far surpassed any logical sale or bought info. They were trading High Tech Scanners, I think, and the amounts were 2.5Trillion Credits for the buy, and the seller was at 25Trillion Credits...

I watched them cycle through those two offers appearing, disappearing, and reappearing about 8 - 10 times over the course of nearly 30 minutes. I would imagine that a player willing to trade this many credits, is willing to transfer more than I saw in my limited time. I would estimate the amount transfered to be 200+ Trillion Credits. Once I pointed out the transfers in chat, many people started watching and speculating on who it might be since, only a few people could even make such trades, requiring very large warehouse space/ mothership segs. After a short time and several more transfers, with most of chat talking about what had happened, the transfers stopped, likely because of all the attention.

I would hope you can investigate this matter, and even though this round is virtually over, perhaps keep them in consideration for next round... as someone willing to go so far as transfering this many credits, is willing to stretch other rules or find other unintended loopholes.

Thanks.
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I truely think that Sir Emi should do away with ALL Independent Market use, it has become far to easy to manipulate the reasoning for transfering undeserved credits, on the bassis of an individual sold a ship, BH info, or hit someone I hated, or walked my dog... I find this defeats the purpose of PLAYING the game, if someone is willing to give another player this much credits, anyone can win if only the sweet talk and befriend the right players, it is no longer about being the best but about being a suck up.

Sponsership of weaker players and friends through loopholes and lack of gamesmanship, will ruin Space Odyssey for many players.

im pretty sure its midnight getting the money, was he online? its happened before, midnight randomly got about 10 quad in ships, were the day before he upgraded barly to a 1 quad ship...

and it would explain how he jumps from 4-5 tril power to 2-3 quad power.. and how he can even keep up with me... and if lightseeker was online, he would be the one givng midnight money...

it's possible, if it is lightseeker, that midnight had the money and got hit, and lightseeker is only reimburshing him. I doubt lightseeker would cheat. In my personal opinion, I think Bigbroni is behind the feeding, but that's just personal opinion. If it is Lightseeker, I'm 100% sure it is legal and he has a good reason. Light isn't one to cheat.

Monkey, I saw several of youre accusions and mostly did not react. I did jobs for aswell lightseeker and for Broni. Lightseeker pays alot more ten Broni, broni doesnt feed anyone. If he did why is entire AoF so f**k**g low?

I'm not saying bigbroni feed an AoF, I'm just saying, personally, i suspect Bigbroni, who would be the person who could do so the easiest. I'm not saying he did, I'm saying in my mind, he's the most likely candidate. For all I know it's Chicpea or lammalord, or even Hellsword. And I said it's possible it is Lightseeker. I'm just trying to ensure that no one is accused unfairly here by others. You have to look at everyone who could do it on that scale.

really man somethinghas to be change berfore ppl can get the power and money to do it again in the next round

You take it like if light send it its a reimburse for Midnight, but if its Broni he's feeding someone. Thats none-sence.

For example take it like broni would have sended me the creds I get 30 trill a mission. So it wouldnt be feeding. Most ppl who can trade 25 trill a trade are so strong that it could easily be a normal payment wheter its Lightseeker Broni Hellsword Lamma Chic or who ever else.

My point was paying ANYONE for ANYTHING in those amounts is ruining the game, if it happened at the start of the round lower but proportion amounts it would still be excessive and against the spirit of this type of competative game. This whole round has been one giant fiasco of loop hole amnipulation, alt account abuse, and lacking in fun for most players.

Yes, that's true Ducas.

FTP, I'm saying I know lightseeker would never give credits unless it was withen rules. Bigbroni however, I do not know that of, and some people are saying he regularly gives others credits for no reason. Wither it is true or not doesn't matter, this sort of thing should not be allowed period, no matter what the credits are for.

Open youre eye's, would be a good thing.


If you want further info contact me on msn if its already up for you seither.

Right im gonna say this only once to clear my name from this thread. Just coz i got the segments dosnt mean i cheat for 1 i dont need to cheat i work hard for my place in the rankings, and 2nd thing i stopped playng the market over 2 weeks ago due to all the outbidding that was going on, all my segments are on bio farms. I make more in one mission than i would in the market in one day. You can have Emi check my account. The last things i bought in the market was a few days ago so i could take screen shots for the site i created to help new players then turned the segs back to bio farms.

Hope you get the culprit im off now gonna get some more creds the legal way.

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chic no one every said you were recieving credits im not tryin or say it is you but may be you could have sent some to some one else lol but idk why youd do that

Well i tried not to pay any attention to this post, but with you accusing me like this I simply cannot stand by without saying anything, If i had my way you and your alliance would vanish this round - holy crap I am sick of people like you trying to be the daddy of this game or the jugde and jury...

Ok I did donate some euro to this game some months ago, but beside that I stayed inside the rules of the game... and even then donating is not cheating - as I see it


How can you claim to be my executioner and claim the right to judge me ???? -Even if i decided to give 100 trills to anyone thats not a point "YOU" have to say anything about .. YOU don t know me - YOU don t know my attitude, you don t know my personality you don t know me at all ... Within this entire post you claim i fed who ever ...

I am so much very mad cannot even begin to imagine - ...It is obvious you are targeting me all the time in this - and even worse in other threats ... - you want it u can get it ...It is very rude how some of you people treat others when you think you know all, and in reality you know nothing, I do not cheat and i did not transfer credits, please refrain from using my name in your discussions without a shred of proof

w/r bb

ahhh there we go i repeat

 without a shred of proofthats the magic word ...

in order to prove who who is doining it the market should be made "un" personal and private bids should be anounce on the news or something as proof of such abusive actions ...

and there is now way this should leagally hurt any one or any in game buisnesses and i think if you disagree its cause you are the one who has been doing the transactions... and if it isnt you, you should have no problems with the adjustment i hope will be made as you should be uneffected by it.

well ushould read what I wrote and what he wrote ... -

if I am accused I am pretty sure its my right do defend me - just that I play the game does not mean I have to accept all what ppl say about me or what they say I do!

its better u read a bit what was posted before I did ... - thats not a deiscussion thats already a post about me being guilty of what ever. - ... - thats not acceptabel to me.

w/r bb

there were only three people online with the warehouse space able to complete a transfer like that.Broni Chicpea and thedarkness..which the darkness grew nearly 300 trillion in power just hours after the transfers stopped... :21:

bigbroni, maybe you should read what both Ducas and I have posted. Ducas was saying there was suspicious activity in the market, and I said it's POSSIBLE it was you, because you have the resources, but IF it was you, I'm not sure why you would do it, or iF it was legal or not. Where in there does it say bigbroni did it? I am not accusing you, merely pointing out that it could have been you as well as lightseeker. Lightseeker was the first person accused if you looked. No one said you were guilty, it's time you learn to read. But from your response, I am MORE likely to believe it was you. And if you decide to give 100Ts of credits to someone else it IS our business because at that amount, odds are it is against ToS and is a feed. It may not be, but we have every right to post about the suspicious activity and give names of people we think might be responsible. Grow up and learn to deal when you are accused of a crime, wither you did it or not. If you didn't, Sir Emi won't punish you, and he'll tell us it wasn't you and all that, clearing your name.

We never said donating the way you did was cheating, just CHEAP. I'm glad you're supporting Sir Emi, but there is an extent at which it is acceptable.

And bigbroni, how do you know we don't have evidence? Maybe someone here hs messages from someone who says you gave them credits. You yourself don't know everything.

I quote,
Right there I said it may or may not be true, RIGHT THERE. Ducas was bringing attention to the suspicious market activity, and I was defending lightseeker, and pointing out that you were JUST AS LIKELY A CANDIDATE. I then said in an earlier post that personally, meaning IN MY OPINION, you were the most likely candidate out of those who could do so. I never said you did it, nor did I accuse you of doing it.

So before you attack me or my alliance members, read all our posts, instead of seeing your name and assuming we are accusing you. Because that's not acceptable to me, and frankily, after your actions here on this board, accusing Ducas and I like that, if anyone deserves to disappear, it's you.

Oh and where did Ducas or I claim to be your "executioner" as you say? I've been looking and I haven't found it yet. Or did you just make that up to make us look bad?


And thank you drakken for pointing that out. That means odds are the reciever was thedarkness, which means odds are that either Chicpea or bigbroni was the one handing over the credits.

So, what were you saying about having no evidence bigbroni? Right there places you at the time the transfer was made, with the ability to make the transfer. Chicpea, too is suspect now as well. But don't say we don't have any evidence or proof, right there would be enough for a police officer to hold you for 48 hours. Smackdown.

I would take this as an accusion Seither, ofcourse you ddint ment it like an accusion, just pointing out a possibility. But still if I just read that line and not knowing what all is happening as some of the lower players might do. Then I would think broni was the evil feeder and bug misuser. Ofcourse this was not youre intention at all to let Broni look bad. But still you might want to lower the smacking about saying that broni saw this as an accusion.


And if you were the police I would sue you for using false information.....

I'll lower my smacking when he lowers his. I would have apologized for that in a heart beat, but he targeted both Ducas and I and has not stopped, and is no attacking us and what we say all over the forum. Until he apologizes for all those, I will bash at will. I apologized once to him already for something that I admit was out of line and you can see that in GD, I also apologized to you there as well, as some of my comments may have been offensive.

Well my post was made before youre other I think. Or atleats I was typing before you psoted that comment. And now you said you apolgized for youre comment, you said you would not before he does to you.

I dont think if broni say's he finds youre comments insulting him , that would be counted as an insult to you as making you black like you insult him. If he feels it as an insult what you say were I do have to agree on, and he say's he finds that an insult he jsut say's what its doing to him. Not accusing you.

And as far as I can see broni is targetting you not demitri.

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Seither if your going to start accusing at least make sure you have facts right, i'm not one of your little kiddie friends you can use as an example, and would you like to see the donations i also made in the past few weeks, you are a careless person with your accusations, next time come to me and i will gladly tell you how i made my power, your comments sadden the way i thought of you and your alliance, i thought you had more brains than to accuse ppl of things especially after accusing broni, please be more careful in your posts, or at the very least resign as a moderator, this type of accusation is not needed by emi's staff, oh like i said i have many more mails of donations if you want to see them, my paypal account looks like its dedicated to space odyssey, so i will get the full read out of this round and send it in here just to shut you up

Your account luffy should be banned for these outrageous insults you keep throwing at ppl

Insults? Once again, I never accused you of being feed, but saying the timing made it so you looked like the reciever of the feeding that WAS happening. I never said you were recieving the credits, nor am i insulting you or anyone else, except for once that I did apologize for when it was brought to my attention. You have presented proof that shows you were not recieving the credits from others, and that's fine, but we are trying to find out WHO did, and therefore we are mentioning people who look suspicious due to circumstances. If you notice, chicpea was also mentioned, but has not gone off the walls like you or bigbroni, merely stated "Hey, it wasn't me, but I hope you guys catch the person who it is".

And if I get banned for expressing my opinion and stating what may be possible, Bigbroni should too, for multiple attacks in other areas of the forum against Ducas and I.

You know what dont you just hate sore LOOSERS especialy lil kids that spit thier dummies out over a GAME, Luffy i couldnt care less what you THINK on who cheated i dont need to prove anything to a lil KID. As i said before if Emi wants to check my account then Emi can. I dont need to cheat as im old enough to DONATE so carry on with your Sherlock Holmes impression when you actualy find out who did ltransfer creds let me know along with an apology for you accusations.

Chicpea (One P***ed off SO player) :11:

Removed a post with too much information we don't really need.

I have read this topic and monkey, you should stop accusing and insulting the top players of Space Odyssey, as this is way low and is breaking every rule of fair play from our TOS.

It seems to me you stoped playing and are spamming the forum... that investigation you got there is an insult to the free nature of SO, you can not put commanders to the wall like that.

If you continue insulting people, I will have no choice but to ban the Monkey D. Luffy forum and the Seither game account. I belive you can be nice when you want to.

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