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Title: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Comatose on April 09, 2010, 02:43:22 PM
Well, I'll give details if people are interested...a registration system that registers 1 alt and 1 main to an ip range (for dynamic ip, just one if static) at the beginning of a round..all other accounts under that ip get locked out until the new round when they can be chosen again.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: clouthour on April 09, 2010, 03:13:51 PM
too many problems with that and i dont get wats so wrong about having alts as long as u dont abuse them.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Comatose on April 09, 2010, 03:18:13 PM
Name some problems? And the thing is alts ARE abused.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: V on April 09, 2010, 04:46:31 PM
everyone that uses alts, abuses them... its just too easy to do so. its too easy to do something that is against the rules even accidentally


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Comatose on April 09, 2010, 04:50:05 PM
Thats why I say just lock 'em out..and even I like an alt to use turns when I'm out on my main..but still.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: clouthour on April 09, 2010, 05:16:33 PM
everyone that uses alts, abuses them... its just too easy to do so. its too easy to do something that is against the rules even accidentally

so u r saying that i cheat? :P

and truth lets take scion for example, he has a brother who also plays on spaceo and if u limit the accounts per Ip ad u will be taking a hell of a lot of players away from the game just like scion's brother.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Comatose on April 09, 2010, 05:17:58 PM
everyone that uses alts, abuses them... its just too easy to do so. its too easy to do something that is against the rules even accidentally

so u r saying that i cheat? :P

and truth lets take scion for example, he has a brother who also plays on spaceo and if u limit the accounts per Ip ad u will be taking a hell of a lot of players away from the game just like scion's brother.

Well, I'm sure something could be figured out, didn't say it was perfect. Naw, your alts suck too much to cheat with.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Jan`go Vhett on April 09, 2010, 06:39:16 PM
This is the resaon we need in-game mods who have the ability of banning someone for 3 days, 7 days, and a month.
Each ban you would have to submit a reason either to Emi or to someone he appoints as head mod, personally I would nominate Tony, then they would be able to review it and revoke the ban, if inappropriate, as well as removal the mod's powers if abused.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Comatose on April 09, 2010, 06:48:01 PM
Good idea but who would you nominate for position of in game mod?


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Spayed on April 09, 2010, 10:20:13 PM
tony is inactive altho he would be my first choice as well.

yes alts are abused but its not really a big issue.. it does not have a huge effect on the whole of the game


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Jan`go Vhett on April 09, 2010, 11:26:21 PM
Good idea but who would you nominate for position of in game mod?

Just off the top of my head:
TNTTony, Cameron07, Spayed, and Kennequin to start.
Unless Tony was head mod then we could add MJ or Wiley I think.
Also its kinda a devious way to makes em play more as being a mod essentially gives them a responsibility to play ;)


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Cameron07 on April 10, 2010, 12:21:52 AM
mmmm yes.. give me that power... (evil laugh)


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: TNTTony on April 10, 2010, 12:35:21 AM
thanks for thinking about me guys  :19:


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Spayed on April 10, 2010, 02:23:09 AM
every night  :shy: :D


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Lammalord on April 10, 2010, 07:15:28 AM
its really not that hard to track and limit 1-2 accounts per IP... lots of games do it... and if you use more than one you get a warning that both accounts will be banned...  also a game I played before gives the option to share multiple IPs (aka friends living in the same house or dorm internet or something)  if and only if both accounts are upgraded...  but even then you had to request it... I'm sure some not a very nice person will abuse it in the end (as they did in that other game) but abuse goes from EVERYONE to maybe 3-5% and when it's that low its easier to catch and punish manually.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Fester on April 10, 2010, 10:12:36 AM
In game mod, could I suggest Saturn as well.




I know he wont thank me for that  :D


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: TNTTony on April 10, 2010, 10:16:23 AM
agree 100%


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: V on April 10, 2010, 10:26:34 AM
In-game mod couldn't be a player for one. Bias' are just too strong.
Secondly, I'm 99% sure that Emi already has "helpers" who would be assigned this type of position; namely Odyssea.
---Wes


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: FTP on April 10, 2010, 06:24:01 PM
Ingame mods could be under no circumstance be someone who also plays on that same server.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Comatose on April 10, 2010, 08:56:26 PM
So take a player from WARS who doesn't play main..or people who only come on to talk or something..idk.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 10, 2010, 08:57:35 PM
So take a player from WARS who doesn't play main..or people who only come on to talk or something..idk.
What about me? I don't really play and I talk a lot.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Comatose on April 10, 2010, 08:59:22 PM
Heh, well, you don't have a specific hate/love of anyone, pretty neutral, emi should consider you tbh


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: V on April 10, 2010, 09:18:50 PM
Kenquinn, if you were in-game mod. I would quit.
Would need to be a neutral, third party that knew the game well, but still had no bias.
As there are not currently any of those, my vote would have to go to FTP. As he has played, and knows the game, but no longer plays. and while he does have some bias, I think he could look past that in the avenue of fairness to the players, as well as checks from Emi.
However, seeing as there is more to this game than meets the eye - Imho Emi will not put in-game mods as that would ... bring a few things to a stuttering halt.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: KenquinnTheInsaneOne on April 10, 2010, 09:22:37 PM
Kenquinn, if you were in-game mod. I would quit.
Would need to be a neutral, third party that knew the game well, but still had no bias.
As there are not currently any of those, my vote would have to go to FTP. As he has played, and knows the game, but no longer plays. and while he does have some bias, I think he could look past that in the avenue of fairness to the players, as well as checks from Emi.
However, seeing as there is more to this game than meets the eye - Imho Emi will not put in-game mods as that would ... bring a few things to a stuttering halt.
Yes I ban people all the time on the forums that I don't like Mannaman15. I unbanned J-Bomb and we don't get along with each other.

As to my knowledge of the game true I don't have as much hands on experience as many people.

I agree with you that FTP would be a good person to be a mod however it would entirely dependent on how much time he could put in to it. I would not want a mod added that did not have the time to do so or had to leave shortly after being named it.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Spayed on April 10, 2010, 10:21:35 PM
if emi is going to be looking at the decisions they make then i dont see a reason they cant play.

and if there are more then 1 mod and also a head mod that would certainly make it fair would it not, im sure people can still look objectively even if they still play.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Jan`go Vhett on April 10, 2010, 10:47:36 PM
Exactly that is why I said to have a head mod or Emi to look things over.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Spayed on April 10, 2010, 11:16:36 PM
its better if they are players that know the game i think


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Comatose on April 10, 2010, 11:17:01 PM
How about a public vote? Seems fair to me.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Spayed on April 11, 2010, 12:00:17 AM
yea but emi still has to agree/disagree


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: clouthour on April 11, 2010, 09:17:51 AM
-does not add to anything please refrain from such messages-

FTP


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: FTP on April 11, 2010, 10:12:51 AM
Honestly guys you know Emi, you really think emi is going to spend more time checking on players when there is an ingame mod seeing if he does his job well.

Best would be like 2 ingame mods who can look at eachother and discuss things and can go to emi if they really disagree.

I wouldn't see a problem with Kenquinn being one of the mods..... but looks like he signed off.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: V on April 11, 2010, 11:08:38 AM
Honestly guys you know Emi, you really think emi is going to spend more time checking on players when there is an ingame mod seeing if he does his job well.

Best would be like 2 ingame mods who can look at eachother and discuss things and can go to emi if they really disagree.

I wouldn't see a problem with Kenquinn being one of the mods..... but looks like he signed off.

If there were two of them, and they were accountable to each other(and Emi), I would not have a problem with Kenquinn being one of them either.
---Wes


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Spayed on April 12, 2010, 06:00:12 AM
i have a problem with ken. hes crazzzzy! :D


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Fester on April 12, 2010, 07:06:37 AM
I don't really have a problem with that, you think a sane person would want the job  :wow:


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Saturn 7 on April 12, 2010, 05:15:37 PM
One issue that needs to be addressed is to have a mod available for various times, so no point in having all N american time zone mods or all european etc.
Limiting alts is a good idea in principle, but very difficult to actually carry out for reasons mentioned with family and friends sharing IP addresses. Alts used properly can be no problem, I know several players who have them and they dont cross the line in abusing them.
  One issue that mods need to be more proactive with... is the amount of times I've seen people swearing/using inflametory statements and trying to get around the language filter..... though that may of changed in last 10 days as I've been away from the game!


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: V on April 12, 2010, 05:25:44 PM
Honestly guys... this is probably the 30th online game I've played in the past 8 years. 100% of the other games did NOT let you have multiple accounts on the same IP; HOWEVER, if you had family members, all you did was either msg the admin and tell them so, and they allowed it, OR you could click a button that says "same computer usage as: ______". Now, if in fact there are family members using the same computer, you just restict them. For instance, no attacking each other, no raiding, etc. Doing so results in a ban. It really cant be THAT difficult if sooo many other online games do it that way.... can it?
---Wes


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Jan`go Vhett on April 12, 2010, 07:05:01 PM
Well considering Emi is the only admin, at least the only one with the power to do anything, yeah it is that hard.


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: V on April 13, 2010, 12:55:42 AM
Well. I have suggested it before. He said it would be too hard, and he doesnt see it as a huge deal. So only way to show that it is a huge deal is for the players to express it as such.
---Wes


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Jan`go Vhett on April 13, 2010, 12:58:19 AM
Time to spam alt abuse? :D


Title: Re: Anti-Alt (Yet another suggestion)
Post by: Spayed on April 13, 2010, 02:19:41 AM
its not a huge deal so why should we say it is