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General Talk => Design & Strategy Room => Topic started by: CTPEJIOK on April 12, 2006, 06:12:13 AM



Title: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: CTPEJIOK on April 12, 2006, 06:12:13 AM
As i see this tree of forum full of topics in which people asks for good designs.
Here I would try to show one of my swarmers design and to explain how did i make it.

This is my design:
Hull 26

Armor weight 9 cost 135 HP:429   
To say about armor I don't know if this is best, but I tried to balance between weight and HP. Primary object was weight. If you think that is to low so don't forget about swarm bonus.
Weapon 4 guns like:
weight 2 cost 1  energy 201
attack 7135 ACC 15%
To say about gun: This design is was made not for single fleet i made 5 fleet like this. Because of this ACU is low. Don't try to make one big fleet with this ships. It not a good idea.
Powercore weight 9 cost 3 energy generaed 858.
Powercore is made depending on gun needs. I think it's best way of designing powercore for small ships. For big ships it's no so.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Seither on April 12, 2006, 10:14:26 PM
Very goo, I'm stickying this. For anyone who wants to give newbies a gift of a ship design, this is now the official thread for it.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Borg! on April 13, 2006, 03:16:51 AM
hmm heres a design many people have been using or at least i think they have i know some but anyways

hull 23
----------------------------------------
Armour
weight~9
HP~429
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Special
weight~9
energy~860
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weapon(x5)
 weight~1
energy~172
Attack~11057
ACU~5%




Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Gunfighter Frank on April 13, 2006, 04:35:45 AM
my vindicator you have posted there Borg


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Seither on April 13, 2006, 05:28:52 AM
lol, Gunfighter, 90% of the ships out there are now either yours or remakes of yours.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Gunfighter Frank on April 13, 2006, 06:18:20 AM
are you sure that is all. I have designed over 300 ships. and I know many of them have been copied more than 1 time.  but there are a few other designers our there that have as many of thier ships copied. like the Guncorvetts, Yellow jackets, Tiny man, T 900 just to name a few


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Seither on April 13, 2006, 03:47:19 PM
Duo created Tiny man, so don't go taking credit there, but that was suppose to read 90%, not 905, lol.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Gunfighter Frank on April 13, 2006, 05:48:21 PM
if you would read what I said was many other designerns and listed some of the ships they have designed


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: ars68 on April 13, 2006, 07:06:07 PM
lol, until I read through again and saw it ahd an armour, I was about to say it was my mauler design. (remember, I have almost as many designs out there as frank) L:)

now why can't people stop looking at frank and start looking at me, for a change?  what is so wrong with my ships?  just because I don't go out killing other people's ships to prove their worth doesn't make them any worse then they are.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Gunfighter Frank on April 13, 2006, 07:39:29 PM
I dont around killing others peoples ships. I win missions with minimal looses
or no looses


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Seither on April 13, 2006, 10:46:01 PM
So does ars. I'm using his designs, I've lost about 3 missions, with 0 losses, the rest were wins. The only time I lost ships was when I was experiementing or going too fast and that stupid mission dificutly update for time screwed me over.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Charlemagne on April 14, 2006, 07:11:18 AM
Indeed.  His fleets worked well for me til I hit a suicide fleet and was unable to purchase them back.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Seither on April 14, 2006, 11:19:28 AM
you'll be able to get them back eventually. And the beginning ships are always hardest. Once you get the ball rolling it's easy. But yes, his ships are effective.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: CTPEJIOK on April 14, 2006, 12:03:12 PM
Monkey D. Luffy i think that if you sticked this topic for designs then we shoud talk about designs but about designers.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Seither on April 15, 2006, 03:19:06 AM
A topic can have some alternate disscussion CTPEJIOK, as long as it is relevant, which this is, they are ABOUT designs, so it's ok. Now, if we were talking about the yankees or something else like that, then yes, that is off topic and not allowed (well, you're not SUPPOSE to do it).

But here's my contribution, though this is more for gold members then anyone else. Ship Name: Megaman. Both I made and both are fairly decent designs.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Final on May 01, 2006, 07:40:12 PM
so pretty much only two designs were posted her


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: CTPEJIOK on May 02, 2006, 07:09:32 AM
to Final. Yeah... Yo didn't post any of your designs too :21:.Everyone want good designs but they don't want to give away theirselves designs :4: :confused:.

Hm... If this is right for all of you then this topic must be in Recycle bin!


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Final on May 02, 2006, 04:44:29 PM
here is a decent swarmer design i came up with before i started ( mostly for newbs)this one comes with a special.

hull 500

armor           

weight       150
price         165
hp            8911

powercore

weight         50
price           3
energy gen   14721

special
didnt want to give it away, its to good for a swarmer

WEAPON
attack     44611
ACU        10%
weight     150
energy     5000
price       10


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: ars68 on May 02, 2006, 09:28:34 PM
lol.  a very good way to start practicing reverse engineering off of also.  just a thought to everyone else, you can  figure out what the special is most likely, just from the other systems...  that is IF he used all space and energy available to him.



Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Seither on May 04, 2006, 02:48:03 PM
Ok, if we don't get some more ships into this thread, it's being de-stickied and probably recycled.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: ars68 on May 04, 2006, 04:04:14 PM
for one thing, I think this thread should be de-stickied anyway.  of you REALLY want to sticky a thread here, sticky something like the supership help thread, which gives a LOT of advice on designing ships itself.  not this one. 


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Seither on May 04, 2006, 05:37:36 PM
I haven't seen that thread yet, lol, what's its name?

BTW, de-sticked topic.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Chronos on May 04, 2006, 10:23:58 PM
Umm, it's called "Supership Help" by your's truly.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Seither on May 05, 2006, 07:05:36 AM
lol, ok, I'll go look at it and see if it is any good, lol.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Final on May 07, 2006, 09:20:03 PM
dont worry ars, you think i didnt think about people doing that. :12:
i left out a few weight and energy :12:
sorry about your luck newbs, see if you can come up with your own special designs, think of it as practice hi


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Seither on May 08, 2006, 07:42:00 AM
Here's an idea, be mean to n00bs (those who haven't read the guide or ToS) and be nice to Newbs, those who have read the guide and ToS. that way, people are more likely to be Newbs then n00bs.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Final on May 12, 2006, 07:58:37 PM
i was being nioce, i was influencing them to try out all the systems


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: Seither on May 15, 2006, 02:06:33 PM
lol, yes, but I mean if they are newb, give them one or two decent designs, if n00b, give them a really bad design and say it's one of the best.


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: nc6000 on April 11, 2007, 11:42:03 PM
lol dont mean to be the beggar but any1 have a decent swarmer design with def u dont have to give it to me but u can if u want


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: basill on June 12, 2007, 11:54:49 PM
This is the swarmer I designed you can use it or not up to you.
DumDum

Hull:28w 4620cr
Core:9w 858en 3cr
Armor:9w 429hp 135cr
Weapon(x2):5w 429en 10%acu 26240atk 10cr

ps I stole the core from Thezerg


Title: Re: A gift for all newbies=)
Post by: lostedchylde on June 16, 2007, 06:58:46 PM
MY redesigned Xorpitroll.  the Xorpitroll 2a

Xorpitroll 2a total cost 5.544creds

Hull Xorpitroll 2a/ weight - 33/ 5,445 creds

armour XORP/ weight - 8/ hp - 399/ 85creds

powercore XORP/ weight 9/ energy - 858/ 3creds

weapons  XORP-1a/ weight - 8/ attack - 36524/ accuracy - 1%/ energy - 150/  7 creds

               XORP-2a/ weight -  8/ attack - 10278/ accuracy - 22%/ energy - 708/ 4 credits

                                                                                                                                              :spider2:

               actual accuracy = 12% with a total attack 45866 before swarm bonuses