Swastika-logo

[Chronos]

Ya but, forget not the past, lest ye repeat it!

[r ik]

the swastika symbol was the symbol of fertelism or something like that before hitler just it

[mrtimbr549]

The motif seems to have first been used in Neolithic Eurasia. It was also adopted in Native American cultures, seemingly independently. The swastika is used in religious and civil ceremonies in India. Most Indian temples, weddings, festivals and celebrations are decorated with swastikas. The symbol was introduced to Southeast Asia by Hindu kings and remains an integral part of Balinese Hinduism to this day, and it is a common sight in Indonesia. The symbol has an ancient history in Europe, appearing on artifacts from pre-Christian European cultures. By the early 20th century it was widely used worldwide and was regarded as a symbol of good luck and auspiciousness.

Since its adoption by the Nazi Party of Adolf Hitler, the swastika has been associated with fascism, racism (white supremacy), World War II, and the Holocaust in much of the Western world. Before this it had seen a resurgence in recognition from the archaeological work of Heinrich Schliemann, who discovered the symbol in the site of ancient Troy and associated it with the ancient migrations of Proto-Indo-Europeans ("Aryan" peoples). He connected it with similar shapes found on ancient pots in Germany, and theorised that the swastika was a "significant religious symbol of our remote ancestors," linking ancient German, Greek and Vedic culture.[1] [2]

Nazi use arose from this idea, developing from earlier völkisch movements, for which the swastika was a symbol of "Aryan" identity, a concept that came to be equated by theorists like Alfred Rosenberg with a Nordic master race originating in northern Europe. The swastika remains a core symbol of Neo-Nazi groups, and is also regularly used by activist groups to signify the supposed Nazi-like behaviour of organizations and individuals they oppose.

Know what you are talking about...  the issue is , in which context is it being used? 

[Lammalord]

eh get rid of it... personaly goes against my assumed religion (though im not much into religon now...)

[Seither]

as long as he does not violate the ToS with it, which he doesn't, we cannot make him get rid of it, he has every legal right to use it.

[Lammalord]

but still its a racist symbol now, i dont want to know the history of that but my grandpa had to live travling around morrocko and later the philapeanos and honolo to avoid the Naizs when he was a young boy... well at least they never caught him

[Seither]

it doesn't matter, the cross can be concedered a racist symbol, and sexist symbol, hell, it can even be considered a terroist symbol. As can you four armed even cross that is DDD's symbol, it can be concidered an offensive religous symbol. Everything can and most likely will insult someone. The person who is using that picture is not promoting anything the Nazi's did, and therefor is not breaking any rules.

[Lammalord]

well ddd is sort of a terroist lol thats what i do for fun on my free time

and yes i did think of it as something bad but i never knew what... never really commeneted on it just noiced but when wizard told me he got it out of an old game i was okay with it not being any racist thing

[mrtimbr549]

it appears to be a knights templar cross

[Seither]

yes, but it is used as many other things, but even as the Knights Templar cross it is insulting the church of christianity (which I personally am all for insulting). If we hold the guy/girl with the Swastika-logo responsible, then we must hold EVERYONE responsible. As long as he/she is not promoting what the Nazi's did, or promoting racism or anything else, he/she is fine.

[FOO]

 
A cross, swasticka, whatever, is a case of symbolism, there are many symbols that stand for many ideals. Most of these symbols are re-hashed throughout the ages to stand for different ideals at the time. If Hitler had won the war, the swastika would have stood for a whole new ideal, based on the public perception. Its called history(those who win write it). There are many different symbols that have been used throughout the ages, to me the swastika is not so much an anti-semtic symbol(even though it was used as such for a short period of time) but as an ancient icon of days gone by. If people wanted to take these symbols as having a greater importance, why not look upon the cross as a symbol of torture. That is what it was used for, torture and execution. If we are so enlightened as to feel outrage at 1 symbol, why not look at the symbols we hold dear as those of different faiths would see them.
 

[Seither]

Yes, my point exactly, thank you FOO.

[Lammalord]

but the comment you guys said it has is still not good...

[fat monkey13]

Why can't people get over the past. It's been, it's gone, it's OVER. We should try not to live in the past, and look towards the future. That's what will really matter. There's nothing we can do about the past, the future we can shape for the better.

And why does everyone think the Nazis caused WW2. If you want to blame anyone, blame the American, French and British governments that forced massive restrictions and unpayable repayments on Germany at Versailles. That was where the second world war truly started. The german people wouldn't have voted the Nazis into power if there country had been in a reasonable state. But it wasn't. And if the Nazis had never come to power, the second world war could have probably been prevented, and the Holocaust would not have happened.

[Lammalord]

eh true on that... i was into to much Eurpean history last school year... you got a point there you can blame them for why germany started the war... but its not the war ppl are upset about its how the Natiz treated the jew and other minroitys in the concetation camps that pisses most ppl off