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General Talk => Design & Strategy Room => Topic started by: MasterZ on July 06, 2007, 06:17:48 PM



Title: Swarm Defense
Post by: MasterZ on July 06, 2007, 06:17:48 PM
Can someone explain me this situation ?  0o
name / number / attack / defense / hitpoint
(this one is mine fleet)
Scout Class I 8.010 41.894+ 260+ 335.655

(this one was the enemy it have 45% acu!)
Psionic Conquerors Of Achernar MK 3 86 350.298+ 9.341+ 36.548


MasterZ(#64097)'s Scout Class I fleet engaged Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Psionic Conquerors Of Achernar MK 3 fleet on the battlefield.
The fleet Scout Class I did 3.143.128 damage to fleet Psionic Conquerors Of Achernar MK 3.
MasterZ(#64097)'s Scout Class I fleet destroyed 86 of Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Psionic Conquerors Of Achernar MK 3 fleet.
The fleet Psionic Conquerors Of Achernar MK 3 did 8.220.365 damage to fleet Scout Class I.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Psionic Conquerors Of Achernar MK 3 fleet destroyed 24 of MasterZ(#64097)'s Scout Class I fleet.


if 1 def is 10 hitpoint than 260*10*8.010= 20 mil+
the enemy did 350298*45%=157.634 damage each fleet
in total 157.634*86=13mil+

so why did i lost any ships when my def should have to absorbed all the attack ?


Title: Re: Swarm Defense
Post by: lostedchylde on July 06, 2007, 11:07:25 PM
1 defense is not 10 hp. 1 def is 1 hp. the diference is if enemy attack does not overcome the total combined fleet defense you take 0 damage. whereas hitpoints are subtracted from each individual ship. defense total is subtracted from enemy attack 1:1 the remaining attack is applied to ships hitpoints. if you use defense your def should be high to allow it to succeed. it is only useful in swarmships where you get a huge defense bonus when you buy a fleet of 22k ships. defense on single mission ships is a complete waste.


Title: Re: Swarm Defense
Post by: MasterZ on July 07, 2007, 03:47:51 AM
lol thank you for explaining. it seams it has been changed because i have read somewhere that 1 def is 10 hp and from there come my mistake . 


Title: Re: Swarm Defense
Post by: thezerg on July 07, 2007, 01:10:29 PM
I think i recall reading that from a long time ago but i believe that it refered to cost. Not totally sure though


Title: Re: Swarm Defense
Post by: FTP on July 07, 2007, 02:42:00 PM
Defence sux just dont use it  :12:


Title: Re: Swarm Defense
Post by: MasterZ on July 07, 2007, 03:51:48 PM
Why ? I was just hit and my tanks wore destroyed
so now i'm relying on my swarms with 10k of them i'm doing pretty easy missions on 10mil FP .... it seams that 10x to the def i dont loose much of them   :21: (at least not more that the reward)
but i have spend  nearly double the cost which i need to build my thank ships


Title: Re: Swarm Defense
Post by: thezerg on July 07, 2007, 04:31:28 PM
Maybe you should design new tank ships...


Title: Re: Swarm Defense
Post by: Satan on July 07, 2007, 05:04:03 PM
just build big bloody mission ships and save teh sswarmers for taht speccail occasion...like that one guy who just so happens to have 5 or 6 ships and ten thou segs... ;)


Title: Re: Swarm Defense
Post by: MasterZ on July 09, 2007, 06:06:49 AM
So had to ask again  :12:
Scout Class I 8.010 41.894+ 260+ 335.655   <- i have made 11k of this ships which is nearly 3k more that before and still they have the same attack/def/Hp .... why ?
Scout Class I 11.010 41.894+ 260+ 335.655


Title: Re: Swarm Defense
Post by: the broken on July 09, 2007, 06:33:48 AM
i would have thought you have reached the maximum swarm bonus for that ship


Title: Re: Swarm Defense
Post by: MasterZ on July 09, 2007, 06:58:23 AM
lol than swarm ship are useless on higher FP missions because if the bonus doesn't grow up you will get bigger and bigger looses for every time you make a harder mission