Forum - Space Odyssey MMORPG - a massive free online space game

Quote from mgc

Re-post for obvious reasons. Well mostly because I've been opposed to the Donations from the moment it was created (go, look at the update where he added it in, you're find my rants :p)

I want a game where people play for rank, not money.  And the obvious abuse with high winnings is killing the game slowly.  I mean come on, the same guys keep getting top ten cause they win, donate 50$, build a planet or mining facility, and BAM! 2-3 weeks ahead of the rest of the game, why?  cause they donated 50$ they won the last round.   

well its not really the same people everyround. there have been a few new ones every round.. and being opposed to donation is just stupid.. thats what keeps the game alive..

and its easier to learn the game then ever before.. so many guides and poop. even a training alliance..

sure lower rewards but u will lose more players then u keep..

Everyone please note that the above came from this:

February 20, 2010, 12:06PM
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= 320$ earned from this game over the last year.  His words may be slightly swayed by obvious factors.  He's the kind of player we don't need anymore, one who plays for the money and not the rank.

you missed out the time i got killed with 10 seconds to go when i was in first :D

and lamma why are u even here, you dont play anymore.. how would you know what the game needs. im the sort of player others aim to beat.. i make people earn every rank they get..

I really should stay out of this... I really should... So I will keep it simple.
Kyle, win without donating beyond Gold, and win without breaking the unavailable TOS, and I shall then respect your play.

I respect kyle only because I know he could do it without donations. He does it to speed things up for a shorter round (:P)

I do think with this gay top 20 thing..lower top 10 rewards and give top 20 rewards..might as well..your telling noobs top ten doesn't matter if they get close..

yeah its fine the way it is

No, he couldn't.  look at his number - It took him till a round where he was able to donate to ever place. Quite frankly i don't think he could place top ten without donations, he just doesn't have the skill.

there was a good 7 or 8 rounds before the donation started that he played...  then 2-3 rounds later (when the rewards doubled) (and  that resource reward for 50$ appeared)suddenly he got "amazing" at the game.  he would never place top without donating.


Lower the reward to attract real players (not those who look at money and play)  and broaden the reward base so new players don't quit thinking its futile to keep playing cause they'd never beat the top ten.

god dont you ever stop moaning nothings ever right with you he had to place to get the reward the first time so obviously hes good enough :yawn:

nah i think its good the way it is.

and if we did this it would make top ten even less special.

agreed with pirate... maybe 100 is a bit beefed up but hell im in the top 5ish right now and doing pretty good and i only used 5$ of donations on main.. i used most of my prize money for cp on wars... its all about how you play.. there just isn't that many good players anymore.. we usually have about 8 good players each round and they show it, kyle is a good player.. those floating around 10-20 on dday are just decent.. most are newer or just havent learned the game that well.. you can't punish the top few because there isn't much competition anymore.. and i've never seen kyle to cheat.. he keeps within the tos, or at least everytime i have played with him he has.. theres other people you need to be telling the tos too

OMG what drama. all this time SO is just like an after school specal. enough talk and get with the killing. forums is for ones who have no skills. i respect no one til they beat me in battle and argus is the only one that could ever do that. bottom line if u want respect. then ram someones own ships down there throats.

Agreed :D

heh i have already proved myself lamma :D and think back. even in those rounds before i started making top 10 i was always up there and i quit half way thru the game.. and it did take a while for me to learn.. the people that play the game with me now they know how i play.. hell i taught them a few things.. wes considering the strategy you are using this round is exactly what i told you to do. and i taught you plenty you are going to go here and say you dont respect me? guess the help stops there ay..

and wolfy does make a good point :D, ill go back to destroying everyone.. just like i have been doing the past many rounds... i wish you all luck :D u will need it

that reminds me. last 2 rounds i played. spayed kept attacking me. then after i 0red him. he would ask me how i did that. so i would give him pointers. cuz easy kills r no fun at all. then last round i played. it would seem that he listened. i couldn't 0 him no more. it's all about learning. u can have all the cash in the world to donate to SO. but without skills. u will still get killed. same arguement lamma used 5 years ago. i never forget. it's a curse most times tho. but the few times like now it's very useful. so that 100 dollars for winning first ain't nothing without skills to back it.

oh, I always have a way with bringing the best out of people :p

Maybe it wasn't my skill that was remembered as much as it was my ability to enrage people to fight :p

but this post isn't about skill - It's about removing the donation so we can go back to the times when people played for rank and loyalty, not the money.  Quite frankly the same thing happens every round.. someone gets strong - no one wants to fight that someone, everyone joins the same alliance and they sim till victory.  Of course a round lasts only two months now, cause there is not even fighting between the top ten to greatly slow the rate of growth.

and we broke that alliance up this round to try and have more fun and competition. out alliance was the best because we worked as a team. but without anyone to go against us it was getting boring. we have split up this round and hopefully it will be more interesting

LOL, i remember you quitting halfway though the rounds (I was in your alliance), you never wanted to marine.  I quit main for awhile and when I came back it had all changed.  I think you have done a great job in perfecting a strategy for main now, cheers for sticking it out finally.

Anyway, onto the topic.  I would be in favor of lowering the rewards.  Not because I don't think people deserve rewards for their excellence, but because it would help make everyone have to compete that much more from one round to another.

As has been suggested in other threads, I like the idea of some sort of in-game recognition for having placed TOP 10.  I think top ten should be more about bragging rights than money.

yeah i can see that lower rewards could help actually people who cant get gold could really benefit from this and would attract new players cut the top rewards in half and split between the top 20

how about just make it so that we cant get affiliate for the first week or so? that would stop the winners gaining a massive advantage at the start

that is a viable option too

then you'd just wait for the 2nd week :p

you gotta give it enough time for people to naturally be able to get space stations... How long does it take to get a space station/planets without donating?  2-3 weeks?  I know back in the day it took 4-5 days+ (up to a week) for the first person to get a 1 bil ship for encounters. and it took even longer to get the CP to be able to build the stations/planets.

I can get a station up in under a week I think I did it in 3 or 4 days one round. After that getting up the rest is easy you just need CPs and turns

With a little luck you can have one up the 3rd day without donating.

3rd day without donating easy.. only thing that may stop me would be cp..

No affilate in the first week sounds good, without donating you could have 2-3 stations at that time

one week is good, two weeks is better, any more than that and its overkill, i vote for 2 weeks

well if thats the case then its not fair that people can donate either for first week myself included if your going to say that

^^^ agreed.  If we couldnt use affiliate I would just use my money to donate.
However I doubt Emi would take that ability away as he makes quite a bit of money in the first week from donations. And I know that if I got several stations without donating... it would be that much less I would donate. (if that makes sense)

He won't do anything. He has made it clear to me that donations are important for the maintenance of the servers.

I suggested two rounds ago to a personal e-mail to him that a compromise could be to  limit  the amount of donations/affiliates that can be used per day. For example, maybe you can only use $10 of donations or affiliates every second or third day. In this way people can still donate and he can still get his "server maintenance" but no one can just put down a massive $10,000 :-)

meh let jeffy put down 10 grand :D, server could use some maintinence :D

HAHAHA ROFL that was a funny round

i see, there now a top 20 in hall of fame, nice



i think it only fair to other they get like 1$ or somethink like that.  :21:

it should have been kept at top 10 or reduced to top 5..
its too easy to get top 10..

Spayed when u had top tens a few times yo can say that,  but i does come down to how meny people are playing,  i do think what the point seeing you in hall of fame top 20 if you got nout for it.

maybe not $ maybe a free gold account?? 3months?

With the amount of people playing..it should be top 5..

thats the point not many people are playing so why should we give players that really dont deserve it the honor of being in the halls

agreed. but Emi liked highlands idea better; thinking it would attract more players with how easy it is to get in the halls of glory... : (

You know I don't care either way.
It is rather obvious who the good players are regardless of Halls of Glory.

yea its emy!

sorry to bring this topic up again but i thought a bout it and i think there should only be one prize and thats for first place then that would encourage top ten to battle each other as well

Interesting idea, it would create an all or nothing situation for the top 10, but...

I'd say many of the people that get a top 10 position use the rewards to get or renew a gold account (me for example) without that, many would not have gold, therefore would not have a chance in a rabbits brothel of getting anywhere. Some could quit as a result of that.

To get the no.1 spot generally involves donating (and I include using affiliate winnings too). This usually means the ones with the cash generally win, and by having just 1 prize, that person would have a massive advantage each round thereafter.

Unfortunately every solution has it's resulting dissadvantage....

Take the situation that borg is currently in.... He has a massive lead and can wipe anyone he want through attacking stuctures (as I've recently found out :crutch: ). A solution would be to link total mothership power into whether he can attack lower lvl players planets or not, but then that would decrease PVP and push people like Borg away from the game again.  No easy solution!

I haven't a problem with what Borg did to me, that's just what happens within the current SpaceO set up, as always I'll take it on the chin and carry on.

good point bro make no rewards at all they were good old days when wars were for placings not cash now that was fun

Saturn I did warn you a week ago that I'd be attacking you  :(

I know, I'm not complaining about it..... why do you think I went ocean this round and not my normal route of Gaia? I at least wanted to make it harder for you to take!! :P

aye I was annoyed at the 2nd hit, because I rebelled it in 1 attack  :2:

One thing that was annoying.... I had all those counters against you but they were all pretty useless.  I couldn't get anywhere near your ships, the co-ops gave me virtually nothing, I think about 6 mill credits... which at this stage I can almost get by voting! 

I know how to adjust fire for counters coming in. what can I say :) hk hated me for it.