UI & SpaceO

[the broken]

greasemonkey scripts are used on at least another game i play and they will ban anyone caught using it

as far as im concerned its a bot to play the game, making things easier, take the alien incursions they can be done quicker with greasemonkey giving someone an advantage

when i 1st started playing MMO's in general i never heard of greasemonkey or how to get hold of scripts to run on greasemonkey so how will new players ?

but as far as i care, ask for shortcuts to be implemented into the game and greasemonkey scripts shouldnt be allowed, public or not

[qe2eqe]

For starters, incursions are hardly worthwhile. Second, the max attack rate is 3 seconds, and with a lean browser and a cpu less than 6 years old, a decent head on your shoulders, and the keyboard shortcuts built into  your browser... you should be able to do it as fast as possible anyways. Greasemonkey won't make you very much faster - it will just save your joints. [I hate using a mouse]
I can't believe you all are coming down so hard on ergonomics. You know emi is lazy and won't revise the piss UI as long as people can still swallow it.

Frikken tool - I'm sorry so confident in your own incompetence to google for or write a plugin.

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where the hell do you draw the line? (pls don't go into government, you silly little fascist of weak contemplation).

There's a firefox plugin to assign unique identifiers to every link, so you can just use the combo ', <id>, enter.
There's other plugins to assign keyboard shortcuts to any kind of web structure.
There's blind people using screen readers and lightning fast dictation commands.

Where do you draw the line?

The bottom line is you can't, and unless you want to be the kind of wrinkled douche that refuses to get an e-mail address because the 1950's brick/mortar/paper paradigm worked <em>so well</em>... You're gonna have to embrace the inevitable and get on board.


...IF greasemonkey does provide a real advantage** (I say it doesn't), we also know it could (therefore will) be undetectable... then the only fair equilibrium is when everyone uses it. (That sentence is just as valid without the word 'fair'.)

**Advantage: in this case, advantage would be a higher standing in the game, nothing more. So there's no advantage in spending less time in-game for the same frikken result. Which even then, it wouldn't be, because if  you speed through things, you're bound to make dumb decisions.

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Resistance is futile, and noone cares if you will be assimilated.

p.s. greasemonkey + firefox = free software. Non-exclusive stuff here. If you post something to the wiki, and all new players need read the wiki, then all new players have access to it, and your arguement about obscurity and stupidity making for an exclusive advantage is null, void...crappy, lame, weak, useless, toothless, poor, ridiculous, laughable, dead, unreasonable, stale, deflated, limp... lets start a new thread about how useless your post was, eh? http://forum.spaceo.net/index.php/*oops*.html
modified: "DO NOT LINK TO RANT BOARD TOPICS IN THE OTHER BOARDS OF THIS FORUM."
sigh.

p.p.s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_efficiency

[the broken]

at the start of a round the alien incursions are a great way to get started

again ask for short cuts to be added to the game, i wouldnt say no to keyboard short cuts if it reduces clicking

greasemonkey is a good plug in, i have it added to my FF now, but i dont think they should be used in a game, its my opinion, if you dont like it then just say i disagree i wont flame you over it

but again, i dont think greasemonkey should be used, whether its an up and coming thing or not, if sir emi has tried to stop people using it then dont use it, pretty simple

[deezee66]

qe2eqe, calling "E" lazy is just wrong he has brought this game really far in the last three years. When i started playing we didnt even have galaxy contracts so check your facts before posting.

[zephyrblade]

When i started playing we didnt even have galaxy contracts so check your facts before posting.

I remember when missions were new-fangled. 

[Lammalord]

yes, im the same as RT - when i started all we had was mothership contracts based on your power, no way to gain turns... i dont even think we had votes and if we did it was only like 5 links and only one for turns...

[deezee66]

them were the days build ships and attack everyone in sight

[zephyrblade]

yes, im the same as RT - when i started all we had was mothership contracts based on your power, no way to gain turns... i dont even think we had votes and if we did it was only like 5 links and only one for turns...

Yup, and remember how pissed everybody was most people were when emi was like "BAM, GALAXY"?

[qe2eqe]

OK so maybe emi isn't lazy, but making a friendlier ui is prolly not on his list of priorities. For starters, he's building a whole 'nother game, which will make him money, and that's more important than the small decrease he might get in player turnover.
I actually asked him a long time ago if I could make a plugin specific to SpaceO, I told him a spot on the firefox plugin site would be good marketing for the game. He said no  - -  - which I think was a poor decision. But hey, I'm dogmatic, persistent... and perhaps more disrespectful to emi than I should be.
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He built a skin chooser for one skin, if you need an example of the crap he puts on his plate and procrastinates.

[Cameron07]

although i read very little of q boys posts because they are too long and i cant pay attention that long, i will say that there has been many suggestions and updates in the works that have been that way for a long time.. what happened to fleet commanders? pvp update for wars? the whole fleet salvage thing, instead of emi trying for another game maybe he should actually work on the ones he already has

ETA I would say two weeks, please suggest commanders and abilities to make it faster 

You will have something like a commander pool, kind of like the Your Commander screen, but listing the fleet commander abilities / level / etc, and their pic of course, we will have specially designed pics for each of them...

If you sell the fleet he is commanding he won't be affected, you can assign him to another fleet, it's like assigning generals to command regiments, you can re-assign or un-assign them at any time...

Cost to hire: This one is simple, a minimum price based on the fleet commander level, and auction, so maximum price will be set by the players that overbid each other to hire him... new category in marketplace to hire them, and they come there to be hired.

In the fleet commanders pool area, you will be able to dismiss them if necesary, however you can have multiple Gunners or Boarders, but their level will be different, so if you lose one, you could replace him if you have more, or make more fleets, like if I have 10 boarder commanders I could make a boarding Armada... imagine 10 fleets each with a lvl 20 Boarding commander 

Your Gunner commander sounds good, it can be coded, but probably change the special ability to affect the target, e.g. -20 % acc to enemy/ 50% change the enemy does 1/2 damage...



 
 
« Last Edit: December 29, 2007, 04:59:55 PM by SirEmi » 
 

yeah.. two weeks.. riight

[zephyrblade]

although i read very little of q boys posts because they are too long and i cant pay attention that long, i will say that there has been many suggestions and updates in the works that have been that way for a long time.. what happened to fleet commanders? pvp update for wars? the whole fleet salvage thing, instead of emi trying for another game maybe he should actually work on the ones he already has

My thoughts exactly...
Neglect ftl.

[blakranger51]

where the hell do you draw the line? (pls don't go into government, you silly little fascist of weak contemplation).

You need to review the definition of fascist.


Emi has registered the copyright for this game in Romania, so this game falls under Romanian jurisdiction, ere by, no ADA.

And he does seem to leave an awful lot unfinished here...

[qe2eqe]

...if you're going by the country: tag at copyrightdeposit.... that means hill of beans. His registrar is out of california, USA.

Besides, I think public web pages are copyright in u.s. by default, whether it's claimed or not.

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No lawyer would ever give a crap about this small cookie, anyway. I'm just saying, people deserve this crap and it's important enough for the law to notice. 

[deezee66]

...if you're going by the country: tag at copyrightdeposit.... that means hill of beans. His registrar is out of california, USA.

Besides, I think public web pages are copyright in u.s. by default, whether it's claimed or not.

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No lawyer would ever give a crap about this small cookie, anyway. I'm just saying, people deserve this crap and it's important enough for the law to notice. 

Just get over it already and move on.

[blakranger51]

...if you're going by the country: tag at copyrightdeposit.... that means hill of beans. His registrar is out of california, USA.

Besides, I think public web pages are copyright in u.s. by default, whether it's claimed or not.

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No lawyer would ever give a crap about this small cookie, anyway. I'm just saying, people deserve this crap and it's important enough for the law to notice. 

First of all, you should know it is definitely NOT important enough for the law to notice, that or you haven't left your house in the past few years.

Secondly, you need to grow up and notice that there are other countries than our great USA on this planet, and that a great deal of those have comparable industrial, commercial, and technological development, and that many, many important things happen outside the US. I appreciate your Nationalism/Patriotism, but it shouldn't be an excuse to not have a global view at the same time.