Improved Battle System

[blakranger51]

All you guys in the top think its bad cause you can't attack people below you...but when Argus was able to attack me, I wasn't able to attack someone even 10 ranks below him, and yet he was able to attack me at will. It was unfair for the lower ranked people.

~Wrath

[Argus]

Actually i had to reserve most of my fleet for that hit.... and buy tiny boats for a taskforce...

[blakranger51]

Wow thats weird cause I didn't see you reserver them...curse the slowly updating ranking screen!

[A^Bloody^Idiot]

- Contracts insurace will cover the cost of killed marines in that mission

It Doesn't do that to me I tested it, bought a ship of 6 bill, with 2,7 bill marines
Lost the ship, reward: 300 mill, insurance: 2,9 bill

I always manage to get the things wrong why I always lose more money

Greetz, ABI

Sorry for modifying after some1 posted, but it wasn't a 5 bill ship, it was a 6 bill ship

[Seither]

hmm, did emi mean the full 100%, or just the usual partial percent. cause if he mean partial, that MIGHT be right.

[Remfer]

the marine insurance isn't working!!!! i lost like 60 mil marines and the reward was like only 24 mil credits and i didn't get insurance

also i lost 13 mil marines and the reward was 3 mil credits and i didn't get insurance for them

[SirEmi]

Insurance will only cover marines lost in a fight, killed by other marines. If you stock your ship with too many marines and they die because the ships exploded with them in there, it won't cover it, you should find the sweet spot of how many marines to put on a fleet, depending on your tactic and how much of the fleet you expect to lose...

For example, if you have a max marines of 100 mil on a fleet, and 10k ships in it, and lose 1k in a fight, if you have 100 mil marines 10% -> 10 mil will die in the explosion, however if you have 90 mil on board, they will manage to survive the blast by taking refuge on the other ships...

[Remfer]

my ships didn't die, i just lost marines when boarding the other fleet

[SirEmi]

Then depending on your real resupply price (line assembly etc.), you should get 80% of the remaining damage after reducing the reward and captured fleets.

Example were all variables are involved: You lose 50 mil marines, 50 mil in ships, have 20% line assembly, capture 20 mil in ships, receive 20 mil reward. Calculations are: (50 + 50 - 20 - 20)*0.8 = 48 mil insurance

[Remfer]

but this is how it went:

13 mil marines lost, no ships lost, no ships captured reward 2.000.000 credits

so 13 - 2 = 11

11 * (i'm not sure what line assembly is)

so 11 * line assembly = insurance

i got 0 insurance

[Seither]

maybe assembly lin is 0 meaning 11*0=0? lol, probably not, but eh, just a thought.

[Hellsword]

Hahaha looks like a real nice update emi... a couple of hte things i wanted back when i still played lol... still dont really ahve time to paly but in the future... who knows?

[Dont blame my main]

The boarding party killed 268.765.000 enemy marines and suffered 77.941.850 casualties.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet The Lustful Knave of Hell MK 5 self-destructed.

The boarding party killed 466.981.200 enemy marines and suffered 135.424.548 casualties.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet Ohanisn MK 2 self-destructed.

The boarding party killed 40.572.000 enemy marines and suffered 12.171.600 casualties.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet Goldmoney The Blade MK 7 was captured.
First Officer reporting: 26093 ships taken, 10657 exploded in the fight

The boarding party killed 104.833.560 enemy marines and suffered 31.450.068 casualties.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet Dirtspawn The Slayer MK 15 self-destructed.

Incoming transmision!
Thank you for your help commander, you have been awarded 157.779.534 Credits
Unidentified Fleet(#) lost more power than you during battle.
(+1415 Exp)

Selling all ships and upgrades...
You gained 49.511.568 credits from selling the ship(s) and upgrade(s).

158+ 49 = 207
78+ 135+31 + 12= 256

Were is my insurance?

[Peter Angelo]

Ok, finally an encounter to show what I'm talking about. (emi, the full battle summary is in your ingame email)
this is a 230 or 240 some encryption mission.

My fleet is 8lines of ships. below is a quick summary:

Engaged Units
Fleet Name # of Units Attack Defence Hitpoints
Ghost-succubi Of Jupiter MK 14 20 172558367+ 204036+ 104422450
The Awful Buccaneer MK 4 463 5328665+ 66175+ 4030549
Eternal Coffin Fly MK 4 23901 311394+ 1957+ 168089
Tidpubaaz MK 1 24152 996801+ 2229+ 246325
Ngirgit MK 4 190495 139655+ 186+ 2640
Phased Jackals Of The Metal Planet MK 1 541517 42878+ 87+ 5897
Tibael MK 2 6549 1437006+ 3518+ 881880


The boarding party killed 1.680.000.000 enemy marines and suffered 336.000.000 casualties.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet Ghost-succubi Of Jupiter MK 14 self-destructed.

The boarding party killed 3.518.800.000 enemy marines and suffered 703.760.000 casualties.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet The Awful Buccaneer MK 4 self-destructed.

The boarding party killed 2.287.134.492 enemy marines and suffered 457.426.898 casualties.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet Eternal Coffin Fly MK 4 self-destructed.

The boarding party killed 1.002.308.000 enemy marines and suffered 200.461.600 casualties.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet Tidpubaaz MK 1 self-destructed.

The boarding party killed 624.823.600 enemy marines and suffered 124.964.720 casualties.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet Ngirgit MK 4 was captured.
First Officer reporting: 112392 ships taken, 78103 exploded in the fight

The boarding party killed 2.600.364.634 enemy marines and suffered 520.072.927 casualties.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet Phased Jackals Of The Metal Planet MK 1 self-destructed.

The boarding party killed 3.457.872.000 enemy marines and suffered 691.574.400 casualties.
Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet Tibael MK 2 self-destructed.

You boarded Unidentified Fleet(#)'s fleet and mothership.
You destroyed Unidentified Fleet(#)'s 674705 ships and lost 0/163 ships.
112392 ships from Unidentified Fleet(#)'s Ngirgit MK 4 fleet captured during battle.
You lost 0/58.676.556.085 fleet power (0%), while the enemy lost 674.722.159/674.722.159 fleet power (100%)
Primary Objective: Destroy 50% of the enemy while losing less percent of the armada then the enemy.


Incoming transmision!
Thank you for your help commander, you have been awarded 1.551.879.000 Credits
Unidentified Fleet(#) lost more power than you during battle.

(+3850 Exp)

Ngirgit MK 4 112,392 13.200 Yes View / Edit

You gained 741.787.286 credits from selling the ship(s) and upgrade(s).

Ok so...
Losses
336.000.000
703.760.000
457.461.600
200.461.600
124.964.720
520.072.972
691.574.400
___________

3.034.295.292

Earnings
1.551.879.000
741.787.268
______________

2.293.666.268
So my losses were more then my gains, with no loss of fleet power.
Where is my 740mil insurance payment?    Just wanted to show there sin't any.

[SirEmi]

Hi,

You have to reduce your marine losses by your assembly line + mothership assembly line bonus and gold bonus if you have, then insurance will cover 80% of what was lost after the deduction of the profit.

E.g. let's say you have 25% assembly line, that would be losses: (should have used marines bonus but couldnt decide to use the resupply marines or buy marines so assembly line was used )

totalLosses = 3.034.295.292 * 0.75  = 2.275.721.469

totalEarnings = 2.293.666.268

totalEarnings > totalLosses, so no insurance, otherwise you would have got:

Insurance = (totalLosses - totalEarnings)*0.8